2 Border Vigilantes go to jail in capture

Arizona Republic ^ | 8 October 2003 | Daniel Gonzalez

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Two men received jail sentences Wednesday for illegally hunting down undocumented immigrants along the southern Arizona border with Mexico.

Human rights advocates, prosecutors and Mexican officials hailed the sentencing as a blow against border vigilantes, but the leader of a citizens border patrol group said the case has galvanized a group of people in the Yuma area to take up arms and patrol the border themselves.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Innocent people are almost always the ones who are intimidated into pleading guilty, rather than risk the much harsher threat and sentence of going to trial and losing.

Genuinely guilty criminals rarely plead guilty. THey know that as a rule, they will be released long before their sentence has been served, due to the over crowded prison system. The guilty often are released while the innocent are still serving their so called shorter sentences.

[F.J. Mitchell]

The race card is the liberal's weapon of mass desperation.

[Missouri]

liberal's weapon

Another weapon of the liberal is to flood the country with illegal aliens and legal immigrants who need welfare, register them to vote, and who do you think they turn around and vote for? The DEMOCRATS.

Now why doesn't GWB realize that conservatives will be so outnumbered that we'll hold no power at all in the matter of a few years?

[F.J. Mitchell]

I agree with everything you said there, Missouri, and why Bush and almost every other Conservative leader cannot see the obvious, is beyond my comprehension or understanding.

[moehoward]

Simcox: "They potentially saved the lives of those kids....."

An excellent point.

[Missouri]

Simcox: "They potentially saved the lives of those kids....."

We need alot more Chris Simcox's in this country. Maybe then there will be hope in getting this problem under control.

they were only doing what our president has asked us, which is to be vigilant and to report suspicious illegal activities to the proper authorities."

Using the Presidents own words against him. The Bushbots won't be happy.

[Missouri]

why Bush and almost every other Conservative leader cannot see the obvious, is beyond my comprehension or understanding.

I'm like you. I just don't get it.

[Sabertooth]

BS. What part of illegal don't you understand, hypocrite?

Look again at my post...

When our politicians and law enforcement agencies are dedicated to lawlessness on the border, vigilantism will follow.

These guys were just trying to enforce the laws that President Bush won't.

I don't think vigilantism is a good thing, I think it's something to be avoided. We get vigilantism when frustrated yahoos see the authorites and the politicians not doing their jobs.

Hence, the sarcasm of my second sentence.

[Paulie]

"These guys were just trying to enforce the laws that President Bush won't."

If you don't mind me saying...while Bush certainly shares the blame, the state and local authorities are equally derelict in their own duties, the way I see it. I'm glad to see the people fight back.

[Cultural Jihad]

Yes, 120 days in the slammer and 360 hours of community service is "fighting back" against violent lawlessness.

[MissAmericanPie]

He needs to bring charges against the judge for unlawful detainment and sentencing, take it to the Supreme Court then on to the SCOUS. Someone needs to kick this case up a knotch.

[PRND21]

We need alot more Chris Simcox's in this country.

Another border jockey with a record.

[Cultural Jihad]

He needs to bring charges against the judge for unlawful detainment and sentencing, take it to the Supreme Court then on to the SCOUS. Someone needs to kick this case up a knotch.

Hey, you are free to go shove a gun into the faces of unarmed women and children walking down a public street if you want to and make a federal case out of the false imprisonment charges that would apply. Don't be a Salon Bolsheviki by whining for someone else to do what you want to see done.

[TLI]

Beatriz Chavez, a spokeswoman for the Mexican consulate in Yuma, praised the sentencing.


"To see someone pointing a gun at you is very scary, and they were really defenseless because they were just women and children," Chavez said.



I absolutly agree, but I don't think Beatriz is willing to comment on THIS little event. 

[Cultural Jihad]

Um, Beatrice Chavez is not Janet Reno or Fidel Castro.

[Travis Bickel/Marine Inspector]

Nothing is established as a "fact" in any arrest.

LOL. You can't be that stupid. Or can you.

[MissAmericanPie]

There are a few laws regarding illegal alien invasion that were ignored, as well as citizens arrest, which is a common law as old as the USofA. The case needs to be appealed and appealed, right on up the ladder.

[Cultural Jihad]

Check out the citizen's arrest laws of Arizona. You don't see these fascist types shoving guns into the faces of people who park illegally in handicapped parking spaces, or shootouts between speeders and self-described 'vigilante patriots.' Those who do rightly end up spending months or years behind bars.

[bjcintennessee]

It's really too bad our citizens are not informed of their powers on a jury to throw out the law.

Jurors can throw out the law? Cool. I never heard of that. The few jurys I served on were pretty much told by the judge what the law was and that it was our duty to determine if the defendent had violated the law (It's been a long time, so I may not be entirely accurate here).

But at no time did anyone ever tell us that we were at liberty to throw out the law.