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Investigator Testifies at Bryant Hearing
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Posted on 10/09/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by per loin

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Detective: Bryant's accuser protested during encounter

By Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press Writer
October 9, 2003

EAGLE - The woman who accused Kobe Bryant of rape told police a flirtatious encounter quickly turned ugly when he grabbed her by the neck, bent her over a chair and attacked her, repeatedly asking, "You're not going to tell anybody about this, right?"

The 19-year-old woman was raped after agreeing to go to Bryant's suite at the resort where she worked, Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters testified Thursday at a preliminary hearing to determine whether Bryant will stand trial.

Winters described in graphic detail for a packed courtroom how, according to the woman, an exciting, chance meeting with the Los Angeles Lakers' superstar led to a nightmarish assault that left her shaken and in tears.

She said she told Bryant "no" at least twice and he ignored her, pulling her dress up and her underwear down and raping her from behind.

At one point, the woman told police, Bryant forced her to face him and say "no" when he asked if she was going to tell anyone. After the attack, Bryant made her kiss his penis, Winters said the woman told investigators.

Bryant, 25, has insisted the sex was consensual. He sat at the defense table staring straight at Winters for much of the hearing, hands folded in front of him. Bryant occasionally clenched his jaw, but showed little other reaction.

Though the testimony was graphic, the most explosive statement came from Bryant's own defense attorney when she suggested under cross examination that the woman's injuries would also be "consistent with a person who has had sex with three different men in three days."

That led an angry Judge Frederick Gannett to empty the courtroom and summon the lawyers to his chambers. Gannett was also upset earlier when defense attorney Pamela Mackey said the woman's name four times when asking questions.

She apologized, saying she would write herself a big note not to say it.

"Or I could get you a big muzzle," Gannett said.

The hearing - expected to last only an afternoon - was finally adjourned after more than six hours, an indication the trial could be long and laborious for both sides. Gannett said it would continue next Wednesday, and the district attorney's office said Bryant had to appear.

Winters, the only witness of the afternoon, recounted what the woman told him in an hourlong interview the day after she met Bryant at the resort. It all began with a tour of the hotel on June 30 that led to some flirting. She went back to Bryant's room and showed him a tattoo on her ankle, then turned down his request to join him in the hot tub, Winters said.

Her shift at the front desk was ending and she wanted to go home, he said, and "she was starting to feel a bit uncomfortable."

Winters said she stood up to leave and Bryant gave her a hug that led to some consensual kissing, Winters said.

But when she turned to go, Bryant grabbed her by the neck, pulled up her black dress and raped her against a chair, Winters said. She told investigators she said "no" at least twice, before bursting into tears as the five-minute attack went on.

Bryant wasn't holding her neck so tight she couldn't breathe, Winters said, but enough to control her movement.

"She was afraid that he was going to choke her," he said.

Afterward, Bryant told the woman to clean up, Winters said. She fixed her hair, wiped her face and left after again promising to remain silent.

She went back to the front desk to finish up her work and finally left the resort with an unidentified bellman, Winters said. She told him what happened and he urged her to report it, later following her home.

Winters testified that the woman's blood was found on the inside of Bryant's T-shirt, based on DNA tests. The woman told him she had bleeding from the attack, he said.

The prosecution also presented photographs showing vaginal injuries and one of a bruise on the woman's jaw, and a rape nurse's statement that her injuries were not consistent with consensual sex.

Mackey, though, suggested Winters had no idea when the bruise occurred, and got him to acknowledge that the woman needed no treatment for injuries when she was examined. She also questioned him on whether he saw marks on her neck when he interviewed her the next day.

"She talks on how Mr. Kobe Bryant grabbed her neck and choked her," Mackey told Winters. "You looked at her neck to see?"

Winters said he had, then Mackey asked him if he saw any injuries on her neck.

"Not from the front, no," he said.

"Not a red mark?" she asked.

"That's correct," he said.

"Not a scratch?"

"That's correct."

Winters said the woman seemed serious when he first interviewed her with her parents at their Eagle home.

"I sensed a crackle in her voice," he said. "She stated that he raped her."

Bryant faces up to life in prison if convicted of a felony charge of sexual assault.

Legal experts had expected the defense to waive the hearing and head straight to trial rather than allow prosecutors to lay out their case for the first time _ evidence that will be discussed in public for months.

Gannett had rejected defense requests to have the woman testify and to see her medical records.

The hearing began as hundreds of reporters and a handful of spectators gathered outside the courthouse to catch a glimpse of Bryant as he arrived with his lawyers in a caravan of three SUVs. He said nothing to the crowd.

Bryant had to take off a necklace and was checked with metal detectors before walking into the courtroom.

Bryant, free on $25,000 bond, had been ordered to appear in court for a bond hearing even if the preliminary hearing was waived. He left the Hawaii training camp of the Los Angeles Lakers on Wednesday.

Bryant has the right to go to trial within six months of entering a plea, but he could agree to push that back until later, perhaps after the NBA season ends early next summer.

Copyright 2003, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.


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KEYWORDS: kobe; kobebryant; rape
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To: Tall_Texan
BTW, all you chicks with tattoos on your backside - how good do you feel about them now?

There appears to be confusion over whether her tattoo was on her back or her ankle. Hold your fire.

561 posted on 10/09/2003 8:21:50 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Torie
all of whom still miss him a lot even 13 years after his death.

No better testimony than that Torie, none at all.

562 posted on 10/09/2003 8:22:33 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Howlin
Tried to find naming the victim in Rape Shield Law but could not. However, to add to yours:

If the defendant intends to offer evidence of the victim’s previous sexual behavior, he is required to comply with certain procedural requirements for its admission and may not simply wait until trial to present the evidence. The defendant is required to make a written motion to offer the evidence, as well as an order of proof, and must do so no later than fifteen days before trial.

If, however, the court determines that the evidence is newly discovered and could not have been discovered through the exercise of reasonable diligence or that the issue to which the evidence relates has only newly arisen, then the defendant may file a written motion to offer the evidence at a later date, including during trial. KRE 412(c)(1).

If the court determines that the offer of proof contains evidence within the specified exceptions of KRE 412(b), then the court shall conduct a hearing in chambers, meaning spectators will not be permitted to be present. Both parties are entitled to call witnesses and present evidence at the hearing. Evidence of past sexual behavior may be admitted only if the court finds that it is relevant and "that the probative value of such evidence outweighs the danger of unfair prejudice." KRE 412(c)(3).

If the evidence is admitted, however, the defendant is limited in the extent of the evidence offered and the manner in which he may present it: the court shall issue an order specifying the evidence which may be offered and "areas with respect to which the alleged victim may be examined or cross-examined." KRE 412(c)(3).

Seems to me that there are specific procedures that should have been followed. She chose to disregard all and simply mention 3 men in the guise of a question. Sneaky pete dispicable tactics.

563 posted on 10/09/2003 8:22:53 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: cyncooper
I thought there were pictures of bruises on her neck; now Carol McKinley on Fox is saying the bruises were vaginal (which we heard were microscopic), and a bruise on her jaw/face (which Stan Goldman said was very small).

Expert time!
564 posted on 10/09/2003 8:24:30 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: StarFan
This was a hearing today; the rules may be different.

She is one of the most respected attorneys in Colorado. I just can't see her throwing away everything for Kobe Bryant.
565 posted on 10/09/2003 8:25:53 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: cyncooper
Now, my theory is the jaw bruise was from her head/face being held down on the chair According to her statement Kobe asked her not to tell anyone and when she didn't respond the first time, he grabbed her by her jaw.
566 posted on 10/09/2003 8:27:00 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: It's me
BUT, there are always behavioral precursors leading up to the actual act of rape. Rape is not a sex crime but an acting out of rage and control. I have yet to hear one person from his past indicate he had problems.
567 posted on 10/09/2003 8:27:55 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Howlin
Now this is just a guess on my part...but todays proceeding was not in front of a jury,so maybe she has more leeway. As i understand it the judge became very upset and took all the lawyers into chambers after she made the three men claim. We dont know what he said to her, or what he threatened her with. I'm withholding judgement about any of this until it's in front of a jury.
568 posted on 10/09/2003 8:30:55 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: sissyjane
You won't have to wait that long; if it's not true, you'll hear about it next Wednesday; she better have had something to show the judge or she's in big trouble.
569 posted on 10/09/2003 8:35:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: jwalsh07
Kobie's statement may be the straw that breaks this camels back. We'll see.

This tape may not be allowed into evidence for the real trial. Before the prelim. today one of the stations was discussing this and said in Colorado the police are allowed to tape someone when they are questioning him, even if the person doesn't know it. B U T, Kobe's attorneys are fighting this - they say that Kobe was only being talked to - he was not under arrest, and that it fell under a different Col. law - so it should not be admissable.

570 posted on 10/09/2003 8:38:28 PM PDT by KE
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To: Toespi
I have yet to hear one person from his past indicate he had problems.



The key word here is "yet."
571 posted on 10/09/2003 8:39:36 PM PDT by It's me
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To: It's me
There's always a first time.

And for every rapist, there has to be a first time.

572 posted on 10/09/2003 8:41:42 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
That's what I meant.
573 posted on 10/09/2003 8:57:27 PM PDT by It's me
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To: cyncooper
I reported what the testimony was today.

Do you believe her?

574 posted on 10/09/2003 9:05:03 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Howlin; jwalsh07
Getting back on topic, if as I understand the "facts," and there is a high probably I don't, the only evidence is the testimony of the woman, physical injuries not initially discerned, but then discerned later, and the woman has a history of sex with various and sundry on a frequent basis(which would be relevant given the time lag), just how can this case be proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
575 posted on 10/09/2003 9:06:39 PM PDT by Torie
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To: TJFLSTRAT
We'll see. I say he walks. Her nut case antics will sink her. Just an opinion, of course.
576 posted on 10/09/2003 9:06:57 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Torie
I doubt Kobie will ever be convicted. I have severe doubts that he is innocent of raping this girl.
577 posted on 10/09/2003 9:08:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Thats Kobe, not Kobie.
578 posted on 10/09/2003 9:09:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
That is the difference between the perponderance of the evidence, and beyond reasonable doubt. There is a huge gap between the two standards, and of course, should be.
579 posted on 10/09/2003 9:10:29 PM PDT by Torie
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To: jwalsh07; Torie
I have yet to find the word "alleged" in any of these articles about what went on today.
580 posted on 10/09/2003 9:16:18 PM PDT by Howlin
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