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Investigator Testifies at Bryant Hearing
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Posted on 10/09/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by per loin

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Detective: Bryant's accuser protested during encounter

By Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press Writer
October 9, 2003

EAGLE - The woman who accused Kobe Bryant of rape told police a flirtatious encounter quickly turned ugly when he grabbed her by the neck, bent her over a chair and attacked her, repeatedly asking, "You're not going to tell anybody about this, right?"

The 19-year-old woman was raped after agreeing to go to Bryant's suite at the resort where she worked, Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters testified Thursday at a preliminary hearing to determine whether Bryant will stand trial.

Winters described in graphic detail for a packed courtroom how, according to the woman, an exciting, chance meeting with the Los Angeles Lakers' superstar led to a nightmarish assault that left her shaken and in tears.

She said she told Bryant "no" at least twice and he ignored her, pulling her dress up and her underwear down and raping her from behind.

At one point, the woman told police, Bryant forced her to face him and say "no" when he asked if she was going to tell anyone. After the attack, Bryant made her kiss his penis, Winters said the woman told investigators.

Bryant, 25, has insisted the sex was consensual. He sat at the defense table staring straight at Winters for much of the hearing, hands folded in front of him. Bryant occasionally clenched his jaw, but showed little other reaction.

Though the testimony was graphic, the most explosive statement came from Bryant's own defense attorney when she suggested under cross examination that the woman's injuries would also be "consistent with a person who has had sex with three different men in three days."

That led an angry Judge Frederick Gannett to empty the courtroom and summon the lawyers to his chambers. Gannett was also upset earlier when defense attorney Pamela Mackey said the woman's name four times when asking questions.

She apologized, saying she would write herself a big note not to say it.

"Or I could get you a big muzzle," Gannett said.

The hearing - expected to last only an afternoon - was finally adjourned after more than six hours, an indication the trial could be long and laborious for both sides. Gannett said it would continue next Wednesday, and the district attorney's office said Bryant had to appear.

Winters, the only witness of the afternoon, recounted what the woman told him in an hourlong interview the day after she met Bryant at the resort. It all began with a tour of the hotel on June 30 that led to some flirting. She went back to Bryant's room and showed him a tattoo on her ankle, then turned down his request to join him in the hot tub, Winters said.

Her shift at the front desk was ending and she wanted to go home, he said, and "she was starting to feel a bit uncomfortable."

Winters said she stood up to leave and Bryant gave her a hug that led to some consensual kissing, Winters said.

But when she turned to go, Bryant grabbed her by the neck, pulled up her black dress and raped her against a chair, Winters said. She told investigators she said "no" at least twice, before bursting into tears as the five-minute attack went on.

Bryant wasn't holding her neck so tight she couldn't breathe, Winters said, but enough to control her movement.

"She was afraid that he was going to choke her," he said.

Afterward, Bryant told the woman to clean up, Winters said. She fixed her hair, wiped her face and left after again promising to remain silent.

She went back to the front desk to finish up her work and finally left the resort with an unidentified bellman, Winters said. She told him what happened and he urged her to report it, later following her home.

Winters testified that the woman's blood was found on the inside of Bryant's T-shirt, based on DNA tests. The woman told him she had bleeding from the attack, he said.

The prosecution also presented photographs showing vaginal injuries and one of a bruise on the woman's jaw, and a rape nurse's statement that her injuries were not consistent with consensual sex.

Mackey, though, suggested Winters had no idea when the bruise occurred, and got him to acknowledge that the woman needed no treatment for injuries when she was examined. She also questioned him on whether he saw marks on her neck when he interviewed her the next day.

"She talks on how Mr. Kobe Bryant grabbed her neck and choked her," Mackey told Winters. "You looked at her neck to see?"

Winters said he had, then Mackey asked him if he saw any injuries on her neck.

"Not from the front, no," he said.

"Not a red mark?" she asked.

"That's correct," he said.

"Not a scratch?"

"That's correct."

Winters said the woman seemed serious when he first interviewed her with her parents at their Eagle home.

"I sensed a crackle in her voice," he said. "She stated that he raped her."

Bryant faces up to life in prison if convicted of a felony charge of sexual assault.

Legal experts had expected the defense to waive the hearing and head straight to trial rather than allow prosecutors to lay out their case for the first time _ evidence that will be discussed in public for months.

Gannett had rejected defense requests to have the woman testify and to see her medical records.

The hearing began as hundreds of reporters and a handful of spectators gathered outside the courthouse to catch a glimpse of Bryant as he arrived with his lawyers in a caravan of three SUVs. He said nothing to the crowd.

Bryant had to take off a necklace and was checked with metal detectors before walking into the courtroom.

Bryant, free on $25,000 bond, had been ordered to appear in court for a bond hearing even if the preliminary hearing was waived. He left the Hawaii training camp of the Los Angeles Lakers on Wednesday.

Bryant has the right to go to trial within six months of entering a plea, but he could agree to push that back until later, perhaps after the NBA season ends early next summer.

Copyright 2003, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.


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To: Howlin
Do you think she would risk being disbarred for Kobe Bryant?

I think she should be for repeating the victim's name not once but four times and then dismissing it by saying she would write herself a note. A slip of the tongue the first time is excusable but this is a deliberate act and the Judge should be reprimanded for tolerating it.

501 posted on 10/09/2003 7:42:47 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Peach
(it's against the law)

Actually, it's not, according to all the lawyers on MSNBC tonight. The rape shield law limits testimony about an accuser's sexual and psychological history.

And I'm saying that there is on way on earth Mackey would risk her entire career and credibility by lying in the well of a courtroom.

502 posted on 10/09/2003 7:43:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I believe the encounter betweeen the girl and Kobe occured very, very late at night or very early in the morning. This might explain the confusion about the 1 vs. 2-day time frame. If the day of the rape was actually in the early a.m. and she went to the police early the following day, which in my opinion is not waiting too long, it would have been approximately 30 or so hours after the alleged rape. One day to get your thoughts together is not too long in my opinion.

I think the 1 vs. 2 days depends on what day you claim the alleged rape occurred.

Personally, I think Kobe has some major problems with his defense. As a younger woman, any degree of foreplay would have resulted in enough lubrication to avoid vaginal tearing in consensual sex. If it was consensual, Kobe would have stopped until the lubrication was sufficient to avoid any pain. I doubt that Kobe would be willing to provide any evidence to support a claim that even with lubrication, vaginal tearing would likely have occured with consensual intercourse.

503 posted on 10/09/2003 7:43:24 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Torie
who is Andrew Marvel?

A 17th century poet of dancing word.

Had we but World enough, and Time,
This coyness Lady were no crime.

504 posted on 10/09/2003 7:44:44 PM PDT by per loin
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To: jwalsh07
Did she happen to mention how you would place a vagina on a slide to view it under the microscope?

Exactly. The idea is ridiculous and I doubt very much Rita Cosby reported that. From the article this thread begins with:

The prosecution also presented photographs showing vaginal injuries

Sounds like the injuries were plainly visible.

505 posted on 10/09/2003 7:44:57 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Dolphy
And how do you know he isn't? Or won't?
506 posted on 10/09/2003 7:45:01 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: jwalsh07
regarding he said, she saids.

Not singling you out or anything, but people keep saying "he said/she said" about this case, but blood, bruises, tearing, and witnesses to her hysterical crying right afterward is NOT a "he said/she said" situation.

507 posted on 10/09/2003 7:45:19 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Howlin
You could be right about that. We'll find out on Wednesday.

And I believe it is against the law to speak the victim's name in court, according to FNC. I don't get MSNBC and as we've seen on this thread, the reporting is spotty at best.
508 posted on 10/09/2003 7:45:41 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: jwalsh07
Lawyers are into words, and trying to infuse more precision into discourse, and perhaps more precision about words leaching into the popular culture might be of some help, as opposed to non verbal signals. Clearly the suggestion has no relevance to this case, since the palance has so far only leached from Easterbrook to me, and now to you and Howlin, and a few other cognescenti that read the New Republic, who even if male, probably have never been accused of rape, because they are somewhat cautious as to the females with whom they get involved. Maybe some of that has to do with the fact that most of the readers of the New Republic are over 40, 50, 60 and counting years of age. Granted Tolstoy did not endorse celebacy as the preferred way of life until he was over 80.
509 posted on 10/09/2003 7:46:21 PM PDT by Torie
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To: StarFan
You think she should be disbarred for mentioning the accuer's name, even though it's not against the law?
510 posted on 10/09/2003 7:46:44 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Yeti
Not singling you out or anything, but people keep saying "he said/she said" about this case, but blood, bruises, tearing, and witnesses to her hysterical crying right afterward is NOT a "he said/she said" situation.

This would be the excited utterance exception to the hearsay rule.

511 posted on 10/09/2003 7:47:09 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: StarFan
A slip of the tongue the first time is excusable but this is a deliberate act

Maybe she has a wisp of conscience and is trying to get removed from the case somehow.

512 posted on 10/09/2003 7:47:22 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
Manner of speaking meaning no witnesses.
513 posted on 10/09/2003 7:47:49 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: StarFan
Talking heads on FNC said she could lose her license if she can't substantiate the claim that the woman had sex with 3 men in 3 days.

She can be sanctioned for repeating the victim's name.
514 posted on 10/09/2003 7:48:36 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: connectthedots
The detective went to her house after noon the next day, as in after midnight, she went to the sheriff's department later in the afternoon, and then to the hospital later on; I could have sworn I read they were at the hospital at the same time.

And you have a major point about the lubrication. And thanks for finding the least offensive way of saying that!
515 posted on 10/09/2003 7:49:32 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Torie
When did Leo ever find time for sex? War and Piece?
516 posted on 10/09/2003 7:49:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Peach
Considering there was blood and bruising, I'd say foreplay is not even in his lexicon.

Probably not. Hey Kobe, just think of it as warming up before a big game.

517 posted on 10/09/2003 7:50:17 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: jwalsh07
I am not sure. His turgidity about his ersatz theory of history knew no bounds, and most with any sense skip over those pages, which means skipping over tens of pages at a time.
518 posted on 10/09/2003 7:51:01 PM PDT by Torie
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To: cyncooper
Stan Goldman said they were microscopic.
519 posted on 10/09/2003 7:51:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Peach
I'm going out on a limb here, but frankly if she had sex with three men in three days, then went to a stranger's hotel room, past history of attempted suicide, could there not be the possibilty that she could be a little unstable???
520 posted on 10/09/2003 7:51:36 PM PDT by Toespi
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