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Arnold Wants A Baghdad Deal For Calif.
Forbes ^ | 10.09.03, 9:35 AM ET | Dan Ackman

Posted on 10/09/2003 8:54:09 AM PDT by VxH

NEW YORK - Sometimes when young struggling nations emerge as democracies, the United States feels inclined to throw them a little aid. Iraq is one example. California might be the next if Governor-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger has his way.

Schwarzenegger, who was elected on Tuesday as the current governor, Gray Davis, was recalled, hasn't offered specific ideas on how he will close the state's budget deficit, generally projected at $8 billion. But he did present a general idea that the money should come from Washington, D.C.--giving the poor, benighted people of San Diego, Santa Monica and Sausalito the same benefits the people of Baghdad, Al Basra and Karbula have been promised.

Schwarzenegger, a Republican, said he would appeal to the White House directly for federal aid, hopefully meeting with President George W. Bush when he travels through California for fundraisers on his way to Asia next week.

"I will make sure that I can meet with President Bush as quickly as possible, because I have a whole bunch of business, California business, to talk to him about and take care of," Schwarzenegger said during a short news conference at the Century Plaza Hotel. "There's a lot of money we can get from the federal government."

It's a swell idea. After all, California and Iraq both are seeking new direction after sudden recalls of unpopular regimes. But there are a few problems.

First, the fact that President Bush will be raising money in the state--something he is unlikely to do in, say, Al Kut, anytime soon--suggests that California is still a rich state that might be expected to pay its own way. While the Golden State is simpatico with Iraq in the sense that both have suffered power outages and both are sometimes said to be the size of California (California, as it happens, is exactly the size of California), that's about as far as it goes. With the federal budget also in deficit and California not actually having been invaded, it might get less aid than it would receive in an ideal world.

According to the State Department, the United States spends over $2 billion in new programs for the war against poverty and despair. Perhaps California can ask for a bit of that, taking a share from Pakistan or Vietnam. It could help.

Among the congratulatory telephone calls Schwarzenegger received on his election was one from Nelson Mandela, the former president of South Africa. The two men have something in common in that they both achieved high office after long careers outside government, Mandela as a political dissident, Schwarzenegger as a bodybuilder and movie actor. The U.S. budgets $1.2 billion for HIV/AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis programs in sub-Saharan Africa (including South Africa and roughly 20 other countries). Maybe that money could be funneled to cash-strapped California instead.

But even if Schwarzenegger does convince the president to send the Africa HIV/AIDS money to Sacramento instead, that would likely leave a few gaps in the state's budget. At his press conference, Schwarzenegger repeated campaign promises not to raise taxes, to repeal the recent tripling of vehicle registration fees and to rescind a law Gov. Davis signed last month that allows undocumented workers to obtain driver's licenses.

This March, Davis said he believes that California is still owed $9 billion by energy companies that gouged the state in its recent energy crisis. Companies from whom the state is seeking refunds include Reliant Resources (nyse: RRI - news - people ), BP (nyse: BP - news - people ), Duke Energy (nyse: DUK - news - people ), Mirant (nyse: MIR - news - people ), Dynegy (nyse: DYN - news - people ), Calpine (nyse: CPN - news - people ) and, of course, Enron (otc: ENRNQ - news - people ). The next governor hasn't emphasized the state's claim against the energy firms. That was Davis' baby.

But Schwarzenegger will need some new ideas soon as some are now projecting the state deficit not at $8 billion but $20 billion. This is much more than the people of South Dakota and Mississippi would likely be willing to contribute.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; catrans; enron; immigrantlist; newdeal; schwarzenegger; socialdemocrat
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LOL, that didn't take long.

Bagdad Deal.... or "New" Deal?

1 posted on 10/09/2003 8:54:10 AM PDT by VxH
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2 posted on 10/09/2003 8:55:18 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: VxH
My state has a few budget problems of it's own making. I'd tell California that "you broke it, you own it". Every hidden tax I pay is going up almost daily it seems. Any politican that tries to bail them out with my tax dollars will not get my support.
3 posted on 10/09/2003 8:58:04 AM PDT by steve50 ( Democracy is a form of religion; it is the worship of jackals by jackasses. -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: VxH
While Arnold is away, Bustamante will play, so whe he is back he has to undo Bustamonte every time.
4 posted on 10/09/2003 8:59:42 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: VxH
While Arnold is away, Bustamante will play, so whe he is back he has to undo Bustamonte every time.
5 posted on 10/09/2003 8:59:42 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: VxH
He wants other states to pay for Mexifornias ills.
He should clean house first before wanting other
peoples money.
6 posted on 10/09/2003 8:59:49 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5 % of the time.)
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To: VxH
BAWAHAHAHAHA!!!


7 posted on 10/09/2003 9:01:55 AM PDT by Brian S (Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem...RWReagan)
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To: VxH
How about we scrap the Iraq money entirely and give $40 billion as a gift to California. This would guarantee a Bush re-election.
8 posted on 10/09/2003 9:01:58 AM PDT by montag813 (Fire Tenet...Jail Joseph Wilson...Rally 'Round Our President, Dammit!!!)
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To: steve50
California and other border states didn't break the borders, that is a Federal issue and the Feds letting every illegal in the world in and leaving the state with all the medical and education bills has been breaking our backs for years.

There is an issue of the Federal government either enforcing the border or paying for what they let happen in the state.

It's like saying to my neighbor that I have the right to let anyone in your house, but if they destroy it or steal things, You, not I are responsible to pay.
9 posted on 10/09/2003 9:02:48 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: steve50
My state has a few budget problems of it's own making. I'd tell California that "you broke it, you own it".

Surely we could a few $bil to help out this new "emerging democracy".

10 posted on 10/09/2003 9:02:57 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: steve50
If you don't want any of your Federal Tax dollars going to California, then fine. We'll send you all of our illegal aliens.

The Feds created a large portion of the crisis by failing to deal with the problems created by their lax immigration enforcement.

11 posted on 10/09/2003 9:05:37 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is alive!)
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To: A CA Guy
So simply shutting down the borders would fix California's $40 billion + problem? Why do I think this is smoke screen for the real problems brought on by progressives / socialism.
12 posted on 10/09/2003 9:05:56 AM PDT by mpreston
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To: VxH
$5000.00 for each liberal you drop in the ocean.
13 posted on 10/09/2003 9:06:35 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Hillary's election to President will start a civil war)
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To: VxH
Of course he never said he wouldn't rasie taxes.

And the best idea is ttou rasise all your taxes outside of California to pay for, among other things, his network of Hydrogen fuel stations for all those hydrogen cars out there.

Ah yes. All you out of state Schwarzenegger supporters. Send us your tax dollars.

14 posted on 10/09/2003 9:09:45 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: mpreston
exactly. we've created the problem ourselves by turning California into a european-style welfare state. The only thing increased federal funding will do is turn the federal gov't into a enabler of our overspending addiction.
15 posted on 10/09/2003 9:10:35 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
>>He wants other states to pay for Mexifornias ills.

The Mexifornian budget crisis was deliberately created.

Arnold is the AntiCrisis

HEGELIAN DIALECTIC:

Crisis + AntiCrisis = Socialism.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Hegelian+Dialectic

16 posted on 10/09/2003 9:10:54 AM PDT by VxH
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To: VxH
This is a political ploy to show CA residents how Arnold is 'fighting for them'.

He is not serious.
17 posted on 10/09/2003 9:12:10 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Celebrate Globalism)
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To: A CA Guy
California and other border states didn't break the borders, that is a Federal issue and the Feds letting every illegal in the world in and leaving the state with all the medical and education bills has been breaking our backs for years.

I wasn't aware that the federal government forces the CA state government to provide medical care and education to illegals. I thought that was decided by your legislature and former nitwit of a governor. Didn't one of your propositions that was passed say you wouldn't pay these benefits for illegals, but was nullified by the courts?

This is a serious question, I'm not being smart - I really don't know.

18 posted on 10/09/2003 9:13:29 AM PDT by Shethink13
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To: P-Marlowe
The Feds created a large portion of the crisis by failing to deal with the problems created by their lax immigration enforcement

And your business sector gets the benefit of the cheap labor. Got enough budget problems here as is without taking responsibility for yours. Elect a man who will solve your problem, not make it everybodies.

19 posted on 10/09/2003 9:14:09 AM PDT by steve50 ( Democracy is a form of religion; it is the worship of jackals by jackasses. -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: VxH
California might be the next if Governor-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger has his way.

WRONG ..... nobody wants to bail California out of the stupid mess they made.

20 posted on 10/09/2003 9:15:09 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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