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Mark Steyn: Bigger than Watergate
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 10/11/03 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/09/2003 8:11:35 AM PDT by Pokey78

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To: js1138

"Sh#### was full at the State Department."

41 posted on 10/09/2003 9:11:18 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: jpl
The inability to fire is one we forget when we get frustrated.The nature of intelligence and diplomacy is such that experience and sources are very important though..

It is also apparent they get mossbound. There are ideologues and and partisan liberals to contend with .This is not good,no matter who is in the White House.
42 posted on 10/09/2003 9:11:42 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: KantianBurke; seamole; Shermy
Who sent Wilson on his folly is the SCANDAL.

. The version of the story that still fits the facts is in that Bob Novak Sun-Times column from July. Novak wanted to know why Wilson had been chosen to go to Africa. It’s one thing not to be a card-carrying neocon, quite another to be as antipathetic to the administration and the war as this fellow. The White House asked the CIA, the CIA recommended Wilson, and their recommendation was accepted automatically. But what the original leakers told Novak was that it was Mrs Wilson who’d proposed her husband for the job. The Company responded that their counter-proliferation officials came up with Wilson and they only used the wife to contact him.

Novak was sniffing around the real scandal..

There is a rogue facation in the CIA..

43 posted on 10/09/2003 9:20:40 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
faction........sheesh.
44 posted on 10/09/2003 9:21:53 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Pokey78
"He spends his days dreaming of the first sentence of his obituary: ‘Joseph C. Wilson IV, the Bush I administration political appointee who did the most damage to the Bush II administration.’ Imagine Michael Moore and his ego after dropping 300lbs on the Atkins diet and you’re close enough.

My favorite part.

45 posted on 10/09/2003 9:25:29 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: shhrubbery!
I am aware.Wilson's accusations lack factual backup and he has no credibility in my book.I call him "Limelight Wilson".

If you have noticed though,former CIA agents are appalled that her CIA connection was revealed and I take it seriously.

I know full well,however, that this is a political hunt against the President by Wilson ,the dims,and the media.I never want anything to hurt agents or national security,but the points made by Steyn are valid and should be recognized in mainstream media and PBS!.
46 posted on 10/09/2003 9:26:41 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: jpl
there are 3 agencies that can fire their empolyees- one being the cia.
47 posted on 10/09/2003 9:28:24 AM PDT by camas
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To: Pokey78
Mark Steyn hits another one out of the park.

48 posted on 10/09/2003 9:28:50 AM PDT by RJL
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To: camas
A HA!So the agency could get a cleaning!I was not aware.
49 posted on 10/09/2003 9:31:17 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: KantianBurke
Joe's "intelligence gathering" techniques suggests that the CIA recruits using match book covers.
50 posted on 10/09/2003 9:33:57 AM PDT by truthandjustice1
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To: jpl
Yep. Libs are addicted to their gubbermint jobs and form a permanent opposition to any Republican administration. Feeding at the gubberment trough is where socialists and our Democrats are at.
51 posted on 10/09/2003 9:38:37 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: moodyskeptic
Exactly what do our J schools teach?

Nothing. Just like the schools that our CIA agents apparently come from. If the dream of America dies, leftist control of the universities and schools will be reason number one.

52 posted on 10/09/2003 9:48:09 AM PDT by Tares
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To: MEG33
If you have noticed though,former CIA agents are appalled that her CIA connection was revealed and I take it seriously.

How credible are these former CIA agents?

For instance, the one who claimed the 40-year-old Plame had been a covert agent going back 30 years?

The CIA is waging war against President Bush, as Steyn and others have pointed out. I for one trust very few of those who claim to speak for it.

53 posted on 10/09/2003 10:04:47 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Dog
"Novak was sniffing around the real scandal"

Exactly! This is a case of Wilson and his CIA cabal going on
offense as a good defense.
54 posted on 10/09/2003 10:12:08 AM PDT by MamaLucci ( Clinton met with Monica more than he did his CIA director.)
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To: Pokey78
Excellent article, thanks Pokey78!
56 posted on 10/09/2003 10:21:12 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (Democrats-the how low can you go party-they won't let a little thing like hell stop them.)
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To: shhrubbery!
How credible are these former CIA agents?

For instance, the one who claimed the 40-year-old Plame had been a covert agent going back 30 years?

That is Larry Johnson.....former CIA agent who wrote an Op-Ed in the month before 9/11 that stated America had nothing to fear from terrorism.

He got it so wrong .

57 posted on 10/09/2003 10:21:14 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Pokey78
He must be right: He agrees with me 100%. THE CIA is trying to save its donkey.
58 posted on 10/09/2003 10:22:29 AM PDT by RobbyS (CHIRHO)
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To: MamaLucci
And think who they are at war with...

Not Bin Laden.....but the President of the United States......amazing huh?

59 posted on 10/09/2003 10:22:51 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Pokey78
This is what happens when Bush leaves Clinton appointees in positions of high power in the intelligence communities. Whatever his reason it's time to put his own people in charge. My feeling is he left them in to get a feel for what Clinton was up too. The time has come to pass to get rid of the Clinton leftovers.
60 posted on 10/09/2003 10:28:58 AM PDT by John Lenin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy)
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