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1 posted on 10/08/2003 1:34:33 PM PDT by Aurelius
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2 posted on 10/08/2003 1:37:38 PM PDT by Aurelius
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3 posted on 10/08/2003 1:38:24 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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4 posted on 10/08/2003 2:16:32 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Thanks for the post, Aurelius!

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10 posted on 10/08/2003 3:30:54 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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But amnesty, Sir, applies to criminals. We have committed no crime. Confiscation is of no account, unless you can enforce it. And emancipation! You have already emancipated nearly two millions of our slaves, and if you will take care of them you may emancipate the rest. I had a few when the war began. I was of some use to them; they never were of any to me. Against their will you 'emancipated' them, and you may 'emancipate' every Negro in the Confederacy, but we will be free. We will govern ourselves.

Great line, and two things jump out immediately. The concern and care of the emancipated slaves, something the northern tyrant could have cared less about. And the fact that even if every slave was emancipated we would still want our freedom. Doesn't sound like something one would say if the war was fought over slavery, as our northern occupiers have 'taught' year after year after year forcefeeding a bold face lie

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11 posted on 10/08/2003 3:38:19 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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What, no tiresome Yankees to pontificate on what a traitor President Davis was?

The Confederacy was diverse before diversity was cool.

I sure hope we can put the hard feelings from the last internicine blood-letting behind us before the next one starts.

12 posted on 10/08/2003 3:41:40 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4
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And emancipation! You have already emancipated nearly two millions of our slaves...

I thought it was an article of dogma in the Neo-Confederate (and Socialist) religion that the Emancipapion Proclamation never freed one slave and here we have Jeff Davis saying 2 million were freed even before Sherman made his march through Georgia and the Carolinas?

What the hell gives? Was Davis part of the Lincoln cult or was he just educated in government schools?

13 posted on 10/08/2003 3:48:40 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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That would be Rev. or Colonel Jacques or Jaquess, who went with Gilmore on an unofficial peace mission to Richmond. But really, is it any surprise that Davis, the supposed head of the supposed Confederacy would make Southern independence the only possible ground for peace he would accept? Anything short wouldn't have left him with much of a role. Of course if he were to go on fighting, it would have to be for independence. But that doesn't tell us much about the deeper or ultimate causes of the war.

Curiously, this interview may have cost Davis the war. It's said that the interview confirmed that a negotiated peace and union were incompatible, and strengthened Lincoln's position in the 1864 election.

14 posted on 10/08/2003 4:16:38 PM PDT by x
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I had a few when the war began. I was of some use to them; they never were of any to me.

Davis had more than a few of them, he owned over 115 at one time. And since their labor was responsible for an annual income that varied between $25,000 and $40,000 per year I would think that his slaves were of use to Davis.

27 posted on 10/10/2003 4:21:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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