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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Oh good grief....

Feminism is NOT about "hatred for men, lesbianism, and radical politics". It is and has always been about equal opportunities for everyone ... same as the civil rights movement.

Feminism is NOT about "having it all" . No one "has it all". Men don't and never did "have it all". Feminism is about having the opportunity to make individual choices for oneself. Hello? Does the "pursuit of happiness" ring a bell with this author? It doesn't say the gaurantee of happiness, its says the PURSUIT ... which means the free and equal opportunity to make one's own choices ... even wrong choices. The opposite has a name ... it's called totalitarianism.

Feminism is NOT about abortion. See feministsforlife.com and see feminism in the rest of the world where women do NOT want abortion.

The author takes the most radical elements of feminism (every political movement has it's radical element). This would be like judging Republicans and conservatives on the basis of the KKK and the likes of David Duke.

Every social/political movement has it's radical fringe. Ask what woman would want to go live in a country where women's rights are arbitrarily and frighteningly restricted? Any volunteers? Cindy Crawford maybe? She'd last about 3 seconds in one of those places.

6 posted on 10/08/2003 11:31:33 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Post #7 will help you to see more accurately.
8 posted on 10/08/2003 11:43:46 AM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Lorianne
Feminism is NOT about "hatred for men, lesbianism, and radical politics".

Been to Northampton, Massachusetts lately? Home of Smith College?

21 posted on 10/08/2003 1:06:58 PM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Lorianne
I'm sorry, but that is what feminism has become, because it has been taken over by the radical fringe. Code Pink doesn't speak for me anymore than NOW speaks for me. I have no problem dealing with men, and I prefer my men NOT to be obsessed with their feminine side OR to listen to so-called feminist groups absolute silence on a CnC's serial assaults on women. Yes, the most rabid feminazi spokespeople that we see on television are lesbians, and I resent lesbians claiming to speak for me or defend what I do with my heterosexual body.

Like it or not, that is what the feminist movement has been for thirty years. Run by the radicals, and based on the leftist ideals of continual Revolution, powered by various causes du jour. I can't even watch sitcoms anymore because the male bashing gets on my nerves.

Artificial empowerment of ANY group via legislation is not freedom. It's totalitarianism.

The biggest feminist mistake was to set themselves up as the hizbah - morality police - and enter our homes and places of work, forcing us to no longer act like human beings and causing all of the social problems so prevalant between men and women today.

I don't need and have never needed their help. I can defend myself and make it on my own, without special legislation forcing me to behave one way and men to behave another, neither of which ways are in our nature. I LIKE having doors opened for me, and I EXPECT it. I understand and respect that a man my height (5' 10") is stronger and faster than me. I accept that I cannot change genetics. It doesn't mean I'm not capable of defending myself, just that the only REASON I am capable is the understanding that men are physically stronger and faster than women, and when fighting a stronger opponent, etc.

Women have been taught that men are the enemy and men that women are. The problem is the COMBATIVENESS. Fighting the ENEMY. Who's idea was battle of the sexes? The feminists. Who set up the field then? Feminists. What have they really accomplished except for a generation of therapy dependant, lonely people in bitter divorce situations AND fat paychecks for themselves via their lobbying groups? Exactly, precisely, nothing.

23 posted on 10/08/2003 1:17:59 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Lorianne
I don't think the word "feminism" can be redeemed at this point, no matter what the movement's original intent. The negative connotations are firmly fixed in people's minds. Feminists who think as you do need to come up with a new description for yourselves.
25 posted on 10/08/2003 1:24:38 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Lorianne
Feminism almost destroyed this Republic, if you don't believe it as the thousands of latch key kids that it produced. Ask my daughter who had her life destroyed by no fault divorce, get real and grow up.
37 posted on 10/08/2003 3:00:11 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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