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To: kattracks
My opinion:

CONCLUSIONS CAN BE DRAWN FROM THE CALIFORNIA RECALL ELECTION:

1) The Democrat Party has been steadily imploding. The withering on the vine of the Democrat Party can be traced to the Congressional elections of 1994 - no wonder that hated Newt Gingrich.

2) Republicans got about 3 out of every 5 votes in a very liberal California and the tax and spend Democrat Davis was booted from office by a massive turnout of voters.

3) Take a look at the Democrat Presidential candidates, could there be a weaker field? I don't think so.

4) HOPEFULLY the GOP Senate will see this obvious trend and get tough on the foolish Democrats and their silly obstructionist tactics. Republicans should now be emboldened and they should govern like conservative Republicans.

5) President Bush is doing a fine job, he'll handily win re-election, he can be comfortable in pushing his conservative programs and he should definately fight hard to put conservative judges on the Supreme Court to fill any upcoming vacancies.

6) The Klintoons have been horrible for the Dem Party on a national basis. The Dems can't seem to recognize this and throw McCauliffe out of the DNC and shun both Bill and Hillary. The Clintoons will continue to drag the Dems down :)

2 posted on 10/08/2003 7:25:26 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (ESPN now has 4 little wimpy sissies left. I'm switching back to FOX.)
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To: 1Old Pro
he'll handily win re-election

A lot can happen in one year. I sincerely hope you are right, but....

4 posted on 10/08/2003 7:27:31 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: 1Old Pro
SHHHHH....don'ttell the Stupid Dems that the Clintons are the reason they are losing EVERYWHERE....let's just keep that a secret til ALL the Dems lose.

They think the Clintons are their saviors, when really they are the MILLSTONES around their necks!!!

6 posted on 10/08/2003 7:31:58 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: 1Old Pro
I think McCaullife is an agent of the Republican party. He's awesome. Since he's presided over the DNC, the Democrats lost the Senate and lost seats in the House despite the fact that it was an off-year election and the party in power usually loses seats. Next, he convinces all prominent Democrats to stay out of the recall race, so Cruz can get his clock cleaned. If he were a CEO of a public company, he'd have been kicked out by the Board long ago, and if the Board was rubber stamping him, a shareholder revolt would kick out the Board. But since the Democrats will do whatever is good for Bill Clinton, they keep this guy in, to the further detriment of their party.

10 years ago: 1993. Bill Clinton was President. The House was Democrat. The Senate was Democrat. Most governors were Democrats (But strangely enough, not California). Today: Republican President. Republican House. Republican Senate. Most governors are now Republican. And we've got California back. Republicans now control the governorships in California, New York, Florida, and Texas, as well as erstwhile Democratic states like Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Maryland.

This means that for years to come, the Dem field is going to consist of Washington types, who aren't good presidential candidates, and governors of small states like Vermont.

Go McCaullife!

8 posted on 10/08/2003 7:38:19 AM PDT by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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To: 1Old Pro
4) HOPEFULLY the GOP Senate will see this obvious trend and get tough on the foolish Democrats and their silly obstructionist tactics. Republicans should now be emboldened and they should govern like conservative Republicans.

Yes, we can hope. But just what thing in the past 8 years makes you think that the GOP will suddenly grow a spine, a pair of cojones, and some intestines all at once?

I'll be happy if they simply wash off that yellow streak down their back.

9 posted on 10/08/2003 7:39:37 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: 1Old Pro
3) Take a look at the Democrat Presidential candidates, could there be a weaker field?

No - this is why I believe that Hillary is going to enter the race and attempt to rescue the Rats from themselves. I hope that she does because I believe that if she does, it will destroy all future hope for the Clintonistas once and for all.

The DimwitDems are already spinning the California Recall as an unfortunate "local" matter. They cannot face the reality that what happened in California yesterday was not only a rejection of Gray Davis but a slap in the face to the Clinton's, Jackass Jackson, Terry McAwful, Diane Frankenstein, and the rest of the trash and burn Socialist Party.

If they do not clean up their act, they are going to go down in flames, burning all their "bridges to the 21st century" behind them and they will end up in the same place others like them before have gone - "in the disgarded grave of history's lies."

13 posted on 10/08/2003 7:47:50 AM PDT by slimer (i'm mad as hell and i'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: 1Old Pro
You're dreaming.
Arnold won because he's Arnold and Davis is Davis.
How well he governs will determine everything.
26 posted on 10/08/2003 8:16:18 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: 1Old Pro
Right on target about McAuliffe. From the DFU archives ---

MIDI - IT'S A HEARTACHE

He is a liar…Terry is a liar…with his pants on fire
Everyone should know
Some fabricator…what a fabricator…tells truth see ya later
Everywhere he goes
That guy is slimy…he is very slimy…he can kiss my hiney
Everything's for show

He should really be ashamed…he's been taking from this game…big bucks
He's defending Clinton still…he's a lowlife scumbag shill…he sucks

He is pathetic…Terry's so pathetic…although energetic
Wind him up and watch him perform
You cannot trust him…no, don't ever trust him…Ashcroft, will you bust him
Let us see our FBI swarm

(musical break)

He should really be ashamed…'cause he's been taking from this game…big bucks
He's defending Clinton still…he is a lowlife scumbag shill…he sucks

Gas spews from his mouth…it spews forth from his mouth…his conscience has gone south
And it's never gonna come back
He's a liar…Terry is a liar…with his pants on fire
That man is scum
He is slimy…Terry's very slimy…he can kiss my hiney
That man is scum

27 posted on 10/08/2003 8:18:39 AM PDT by doug from upland (Arnold cannot be compared to Clinton.......Clinton is a vicious biting perjuring rapist)
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To: 1Old Pro
3) Take a look at the Democrat Presidential candidates, could there be a weaker field? I don't think so.

The reason for this is that McCauliffe and the Clintons wanted to stand behind their man Gray Davis (even though he had a 27% popularity rating). They did not want to put a strong candidate in because they underestimated the anger of Californians. McCauliffe, Clinton and Co. should be sent a gift from the Republican Party.

4) HOPEFULLY the GOP Senate will see this obvious trend and get tough on the foolish Democrats and their silly obstructionist tactics. Republicans should now be emboldened and they should govern like conservative Republicans.

I don't think they will. They are all about hanging on to power not changing the country. Hardly any (R's) in the Senate have a backbone. In fact, electing Arnold might embolden the RINO's to tell conservatives that the libs in the Republican Party have the upper hand.

5) President Bush is doing a fine job, he'll handily win re-election, he can be comfortable in pushing his conservative programs and he should definately fight hard to put conservative judges on the Supreme Court to fill any upcoming vacancies.

He better start pushing a more conservative agenda or he is going to have his core base (social conservatives) luke warm or cold about his re-election. He will these 15 million votes to win in '02. There were a lot of social conservatives who did not vote for him because they were not sure about him. He will also need a fairly strong economy or the Dems and media will use the California scenario (ousting an incumbent) as the way Americans should feel about the Presidential election.

6) The Klintoons have been horrible for the Dem Party on a national basis. The Dems can't seem to recognize this and throw McCauliffe out of the DNC and shun both Bill and Hillary. The Clintoons will continue to drag the Dems down :)

This will be the interesting fight within the Rat Party (if there is a fight). Will there be any Democrats who start standing up to Bill and Hillary? If I was Dean, I would. Will any of the other Democrats realize they are in a sinking ship when Clinton and company are running strategy for the Dems? Sharpton has been the lone wolf. It will be interesting to see if this election emboldens any other Dems.

30 posted on 10/08/2003 8:54:06 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: 1Old Pro
"...Republicans got about 3 out of every 5 votes in a very liberal California..."

By running a very liberal candidate.

What does that prove?

31 posted on 10/08/2003 9:35:52 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: 1Old Pro
Take a look at the Democrat Presidential candidates, could there be a weaker field? I don't think so.

If you have ever taken a look at the various Third World kleptocracies (defined as states that exist for the purpose of stealing), the one consistent feature is that there is no obvious successor to the Big Cheese for Life. Part of the security for the Big Cheese is that he brutally represses all up-and-comers who might possibly organize a resistance and take over the country.

The business of the Government, as embodied by the Big Cheese for Life, is to steal all the money, keep the bulk for himself, and distribute the remainder as necessary to various underlings to keep the peace. This is the model of the modern Democratic Party.

The one exception to supressing all possible successors for the modern far-sighted Big Cheese for Life is to groom one or more of his sons to take over when he dies. Think Uday and Qusay. In our country, that position is filled by the wife, Hillary!.

37 posted on 10/08/2003 1:51:51 PM PDT by gridlock (Remember: PC Kills!)
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