[Ranger Drew]

...I grew up in the mountains of Montana. ...and I can tell you just by reading this story,...there were no firearms with these people. 3a.m. or not.

[wtc911]

None of us can tell from this post how many guns or tooth brushes or game boys there were in this camp. You can presume to fit your point. I wonder why though you would choose to presume that the two dead are victims of their own idiocy just because they came from Malibu. I'm not saying that you might not be accurate, it just seems to me to be taking the low road...you know, speak no ill of the dead...especially when we do not know.