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Vincennes Steel lays off half of work force
The Vincennes Sun-Commercial ^ | Tuesday, October 07, 2003 | BERNIE SCHMITT

Posted on 10/07/2003 10:28:17 AM PDT by Willie Green

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One of Vincennes' oldest businesses, Vincennes Steel, has temporarily laid off about half of its workforce, according to company president Kevin Day.

"It's just not a good time for building bridges," Day said. "Work is coming, though, and we hope to have everyone and everything back to normal in two months."

Thirty-six employees were told Friday they were being laid off because the company does not have work for them. Day said the company has a 71-employee workforce.

The local company fabricates steel for bridges that are built throughout the United States.

An employee with the firm said the problem stemmed from Vincennes Steel not being able to acquire the steel needed to do the work it has planned. He said the company is scheduled to begin work on a pair of projects in Tennessee and may have other work lined up in Illinois.

But without access to steel the company can't do the work.

Day stressed that the layoffs are temporary. The employees laid off for the two-month period were selected on the basis of seniority. Day said many of them were employees who have not been with the company a long time. However, there were a few who "have been here awhile." Some even have more than 20 years with the company.

Similar layoffs have occurred in the past but have not involved as many employees as this time around.

Vincennes Steel has been a fixture on Oliphant Drive since the turn of the century.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: bridges; communityopportunity; infrastructure; steel; thebusheconomy; vincennes
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1 posted on 10/07/2003 10:28:18 AM PDT by Willie Green
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2 posted on 10/07/2003 10:29:42 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Willie Green
I pray for them and their families, I have been laid off before myself, but then again with the way the economy is who hasn't been.
3 posted on 10/07/2003 10:34:09 AM PDT by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservative America.)
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To: Willie Green
My old home town. Vincennes Steel isn't the largest local employer [that'd be either Vincennes University or Good samaritan Hospital] but it's a major one, and this is not at all good news, especially coming a few months before Christmas.

Maybe some of them will pick up work at the Toyota plant 35 miles south in Gibson County, near Princeton. But that likely won't absorb most of them

-archy-/-

4 posted on 10/07/2003 10:48:38 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Willie Green
Those damn foreigners are over here building bridges and putting these people out of work.
5 posted on 10/07/2003 10:52:21 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: archy
Considering the magnitude of dilapidated infrastructure that needs to be repaired/replaced, one would think that Vincennes Steel would have a sufficient backlog of work to maintain steady, year round employment.
6 posted on 10/07/2003 11:03:03 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
The article didn't explain why the company couldn't get the steel it needs.

Is it because of a trade/tarriff pissing-contest type of thing?

7 posted on 10/07/2003 11:07:47 AM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: citizen
It very well could be a situation where domestic suppliers went belly-up because of foreign dumping, and now Vincennes is facing much longer, less responsive leadtimes from overseas shipment. Can't expedite that stuff air-freight, you know.
8 posted on 10/07/2003 11:16:35 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
but lotta bucks for IRAQ'S infrastructure
9 posted on 10/07/2003 11:38:26 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: Willie Green; spatzie
Considering the magnitude of dilapidated infrastructure that needs to be repaired/replaced, one would think that Vincennes Steel would have a sufficient backlog of work to maintain steady, year round employment.

VSC builds all-steel span structures, and reinforced concrete spans are becoming the more common choice on Interstate Highway construction, though as you suggest, replacements for the iron and steel bridges of the previous two centuries are a steady if not exactly booming business, including railroad as well as highway structures.

It's a source of some small local amusement that neither the George Rogers Clark bridge just off Vincennes' Main Street crossing into Illinois across the Wabash nor the Highway 50 Red Skelton Bridge a few miles north of town were made by the Vincennes firm- though the B&O railroad's Wabash River bridge on the St Louis now-CSX mainline is a Vincennes Steel product.


10 posted on 10/07/2003 11:44:19 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: citizen
The article didn't explain why the company couldn't get the steel it needs.

Is it because of a trade/tarriff pissing-contest type of thing?

Possibly. Though the Nucor steel plant at nearby Crawfordsville, IN has been a steady supplier in the past, and there's direct rail service between the two cities via their commoin CSX rail link- almost all of the VSC completed products are shipped out via rail, and much if not most of their raw material comes in the same way.

Nucor may have priced themselves out of the market, or other factors could be at play that are less likely to make the local newspaper. I'll know more after I've spoken with a few old Vincennes area sources, and the Evansville Courier's newspaper's business section may be a bit more detailed in their report.

-archy-/-

11 posted on 10/07/2003 11:51:38 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: y2k_free_radical
but lotta bucks for IRAQ'S infrastructure

Indeed, more than 10 times what one engineering firm quoted for replacement of deteriorated Iraqi bridges, only to lose the bid to Haliburton at the higher rate. Sort of like decimation, only in reverse.

-archy-/-

12 posted on 10/07/2003 11:53:47 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Willie Green
one can only shake their head in anger when considering the billions of tax dollars wasted on boondoggles such as welfare queens while hardly any money has been spent on infrustructure. Guess rebuilding freeways doesn't make for good campaign commercials or can't placate Jesse Jackson huh.
13 posted on 10/07/2003 11:57:25 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: archy
Well Nucor has been hurt by foreign dumping as well, despite being the global leader in minimill technology.
To be truthful, I don't know if Nucor is involved in heavy-duty materials for bridge construction. That can be somewhat specialized, and I assume (perhaps wrongly) that Nucor produces largely higher volume, standardized stuff. Then again, a lot depends on the type of bridge design as to what kind of steel is used. Big heavy steel beams are a lot different than steel cable.

I'm gonna have to visit Nucor's website again, just to refresh my memory as to what kinds of product they produce. Bar? sheet? plate? tube? etc. etc.

14 posted on 10/07/2003 1:21:28 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green; spatzie
I'm gonna have to visit Nucor's website again, just to refresh my memory as to what kinds of product they produce. Bar? sheet? plate? tube? etc. etc.

Hit the link in my post #11. But to summarize:

Welcome to Nucor Steel in Crawfordsville Indiana, site of the first continuous thin-slab cast flat-rolled steel making facility anywhere. Come on in and browse around. Visit often and don't hesitate to let us know what you think.

With an annual capacity of 1,800,000 tons of hot-rolled, cold-rolled and galvanized products, we serve a broad range of customers including service centers/processors, pipe and tube, construction, mining, electrical and others.

Our wide product offering includes: Commercial Quality Carbon Grades, Drawing Quality, Drawing Quality Special Killed, Structural Physical Quality and Microalloyed High Strength Steels, Hot-rolled Coils, Hot-rolled Skin-passed Coils, Hot-rolled Pickled and Oiled Coils, and Hot-rolled Galvanized Coils, Cold-rolled Coils, Cold-rolled Galvanized Coils and Stainless 409.

-archy-/-

15 posted on 10/07/2003 1:29:56 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
Thanks. I hadn't realized that Vinciennes made steel truss bridges. For some reason, I had imagined big steel beam bridges such as are typically used for highway overpasses. And like you say, those big steel beams compete more directly with reinforced concrete beams.

And thanks for the Nucor info as well. I knew they were big on the coil steel, but that's just thin sheet. It was the BIG heavy beams and girders where I was uncertain. But I can see where they could very well be a supplier for the smaller beams that are used in truss construction.

16 posted on 10/07/2003 1:54:40 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Hey Willie I fired my mexican gardener this morning, can you start a thread ?
17 posted on 10/07/2003 1:57:14 PM PDT by John Lenin (A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.)
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To: Protagoras
Actually, money that should be going to rebuilding our electrical grid and infrastructure will be going to iraq to provide nice, cushy government jobs for iraqis.

But what is another hundred billion in debt once you convince yourself that deficits are actually a good thing?
18 posted on 10/07/2003 2:00:40 PM PDT by fortaydoos
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To: John Lenin
Hey Willie I fired my mexican gardener this morning, can you start a thread ?

Gee, sorry to hear that John.
What happened?
Did you fire him because he became an American citizen?

19 posted on 10/07/2003 2:07:35 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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