California Recall Live Thread

[finnman69]

WOW!
11382. No vote cast in the recall election shall be counted for any candidate unless the voter also voted for or against the recall of the officer sought to be recalled.

[finnman69]

"And hear the lamentation of the Huffington."

[goldstategop]

He will be recalled. Why do you think the Gov and Jesse Jackson and Danny Glover weren't smiling in that final rally. If you read their body language, its over.

[dogbyte12]

cbolt just mentioned that that part of the law was overturned. I am pouring through the code right now, and I can't find anything definitive on this one.

[So Cal Rocket]

Welcome to Free Republic...

WARNING: Very addicting!!

[goldstategop]

That was the one thrown out by a federal District Judge in San Diego awhile back.

[AFPhys]

Assuming that's the case, then the "Yes" and "No" advocates have the same risk of overlooking Q1, and neither side of that issue has an inherent advantage or disadvantage based on such oversight.

Hmm... I think I disagree with your statement that neither side has an inherent advantage. The Grayout fans are there for one reason: to vote NO on #1. They will vote Busta or some other freak as an afterthought, but they are going to search for and find the #1 question.

On the other hand, those debating here whether to vote for Arnie or Tom are most interested in that line, not the #1 question.

As I see it, there is a definite advantage to the true blue demodogs, and a real risk for this to be an important factor.

[GOPrincess]

Incidentally, I actually called my husband, who is voting on his way home from work, and cautioned him about being careful to vote the "Yes on Recall" box, before I ever posted here. Also suggested he pass the word at the office...

I hate worrying about this, I'm starting to feel like Florida in reverse, the last thing I want to be thinking about right now (!).

[kevao]

By my reading of this, those who today said they forgot to vote on question 1 have lost their candidate choice as well.

Then all those voters will have been disenfranchised. That is, if Arnold wins.

[null and void]

Ahhhh, but imagine the Monty Python based ads come election time: A vote! RUN AWAYYYYYY!!!!

[TontoKowalski]

Hey, Welcome to the Zoo!

Ain't we a fun bunch?

[norton]

It's an election,
we're all being duped.

If I voted with the teacher's union I'm sure I'll pay in the next life.

[William McKinley]

Federal Judge Strikes Down Section Of State's Recall Law

""The courts continue to go our way," said Phil Paule, director of Rescue California Recall Gray Davis. "The other side has gone into court trying to throw a monkey wrench into the recall process. It's a victory for the process.""

[Tex_GOP_Cruz]

Orange County is using optical scanner for this election. March we will be using something called an e-slate machine. I saw one in July and IMO they s**k.

We have used eSlates in Harris County (Houston), Texas for a year now, and, while I was initially skeptical, I now have high confidence in them for many reasons that I won't elaborate on in this thread. The essential thing is to have friendly poll workers help explain the system to voters, particularly computer-shy voters, the first few times. FReepmail me if I can answer any questions about those machines.

[GOPrincess]

Thanks for the info on the exit polling.

Hmmm, Fox is talking to David Dreier about "confidence" and what Arnold would do to govern... Tea leaves, anyone?

[AFPhys]

I think it might be very important for all republicans and independents to make phone calls to their CA friends suggesting the same thing. This really could make a difference.

[Cboldt]

On 30 July 2003, the United States District Court for the Southern District of California
held that Elections Code section 11382, which prohibits a voter who has not voted on the
first question from voting for a successor candidate, violated the First and Fourteenth
Amendments of the United States Constitution. (Partnoy v. Shelley, Case No. 03CV1460 BTM
(JFS), RJN, Exh. S.). Secretary of State Shelley does not intend to appeal the court's
decision.

[GOPrincess]

"We used punch cards - and it did not have its own page."

Thanks for that info re San Diego Co., that's interesting.

[oreolady]

Hey, maybe the tide is beginning to turn on the left coast, since the people are becoming more and more politically aware of the tax and spend liberal platform-oh, and the grope attack, IMHO, gave a loud notice as to their last minute smear tecniques.
Thanks to slick willy, he raised the bar for "inappropriate behavior"!!!
What hope for a miracle of our left coast!!!, thanks to God in part to Jim Robinson and the Freepers!!!
Does anyone know if Washington state law allows recalls?
What a great day!!!

[William McKinley]

See above. It was absolutely struck down.