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Officials Warn of Absentee Vote Factor in Recall Election
New York Times ^ | 10-7-03 | SARAH KERSHAW

Posted on 10/06/2003 8:39:58 PM PDT by deport

Officials Warn of Absentee Vote Factor in Recall Election

By SARAH KERSHAW

Published: October 7, 2003

LOS ANGELES, Oct. 6 — About 3.2 million Californians registered for Tuesday's recall election are voting by absentee ballot, and election officials are growing worried that counting that number of absentee votes could drag out the results of an already unwieldy election.

About 1.2 million absentee and other ballots will not be counted until well after the election, and officials said on Monday that those votes could decide a potentially close race, raising the specter of an election with no clear winner for weeks.

More than two million absentee ballots had been returned to election officials by Monday, state officials said. But 800,000 additional absentee ballots and an expected 400,000 ballots that will not be counted until after election night because of anticipated snags will not be included in preliminary results from the counties, said Stephen Weir, the clerk-recorder of Contra Costa County in Northern California and the treasurer of a statewide association of county clerks and registrars.

"If it's close, it's bloody," said Mr. Weir, who estimated that 10 percent to 12 percent of the votes statewide would be counted after election night. "The next day we're dead, and people want to know what's left to be counted, and the bottom line is we're talking about 1.2 million votes that are not counted election night."

There are too many unknowns, including how many of the 15.4 million registered voters will turn out to vote and how the votes will shake out, to predict how influential the absentee ballots will be. But county election officials, who said absentee ballots had decided other local elections in recent years, said on Monday that if the race was close enough, it could take the counties, who have up to 28 days after the election to count the absentee ballots and certify the election results, several weeks to come up with a final tally.

"I think that if the recall question is close, the whole thing could be up in the air," said Janice Atkinson, the assistant registrar of voters in Sonoma County, also in Northern California. Her county has 230,000 registered voters; 94,000 absentee ballots were sent out, with 64,000 returned so far.

Ms. Atkinson added: "We're not enough to throw off the statewide average, but anytime there is a close contest, you can't predict the results until all the ballots are counted and that's not until 28 days after the election in some cases. I think this may be one of those cases."

Over the past few years, a growing percentage of California voters has opted to vote absentee, either through the mail before the election, or by turning in completed ballots on Election Day, according to information from the California Secretary of State. In 2000, of the 11.1 million voters, 24.5 percent cast absentee ballots; in 2002, of the 7.7 million voters, 27 percent did so. Election officials said they expected that percentage to rise with this election. Absentee ballots take longer to count than ballots cast at the polls because signatures must be verified to ensure that the voter has not already voted and is registered, officials said.

A majority of the absentee ballots, almost two million, had been mailed in as of last week, before news reports about the candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger's past behavior toward women and comments he once made about Hitler. In California, voters can cast their ballots as early as 29 days before the election, and some voted swiftly for candidates who have since dropped out of the race. Some voters who did so then tried unsuccessfully to take their ballots back, several county election officials said.

Several county election officials, including those in Los Angeles, the state's most populous county, with four million registered voters, said it was too soon to tell how the absentee ballot factor would affect the outcome of the election. Los Angeles County sent out about 560,000 absentee ballots and may face counting 100,000 to 200,000 in the days, or weeks, after the election.

San Diego County, which has 1.3 million registered voters, sent out 284,000 absentee ballots and has received 197,000 so far. Officials there predicted that they would have to count up to 100,000 ballots after the election and that the count would begin on Thursday.

"That means that if it's close," said Sally McPherson, the registrar of voters, "there could be up to 100,000 ballots in San Diego that won't even be counted for the first time until two days after the election."




TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: absenteeballots; california; governorrecall
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1 posted on 10/06/2003 8:39:58 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
Never Forget

The Democrats and the L.A. Times must be defeated!!

2 posted on 10/06/2003 8:40:52 PM PDT by deport
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom
This may drag out a while before things become clear...

MM.... your opp for fraud enters here
3 posted on 10/06/2003 8:41:58 PM PDT by deport
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To: All
We're On A Mission From God
Help us make our 4th quarter fundraising goal in record time!

4 posted on 10/06/2003 8:42:27 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: deport
Deju poopoo, all over again.
5 posted on 10/06/2003 8:43:30 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (When the law of survival has been rescinded,all other laws are meaningless!)
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To: deport

"Counting is hard."

6 posted on 10/06/2003 8:43:46 PM PDT by dighton (NLC™)
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To: deport
No, I can't live through even 3 more days of this, much less weeks! More stalling tactics. Then the lawsuits if Davis loses.
7 posted on 10/06/2003 8:44:10 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: deport
Not this again. The counties tally their own. SoS need only verify their count.
8 posted on 10/06/2003 8:44:16 PM PDT by onyx (Ask the Indian$)
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To: deport
Join Us…Your One Thread To All The California Recall News Threads!

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9 posted on 10/06/2003 8:45:23 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: deport
Plan B?
10 posted on 10/06/2003 8:45:37 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: deport; Rabid Republican; diotima; Bob J; RonDog
This seems appropriate for the thread -- is there any kind of election night party/celebration/whatever going on in LA?

If there is one, I'd like to attend.

Many thanks for letting me know.

D
11 posted on 10/06/2003 8:46:22 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: onyx
Not this again. The counties tally their own. SoS need only verify their count.


No one is disputing that to my knowledge.... But they are saying it could take the counties or some of them several days to count all the absentee ballots......
12 posted on 10/06/2003 8:47:34 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
Absentee ballots still use the old punch card system, how long does it take for a machine to count punch cards ? Answer, a few seconds at most per thousand.
13 posted on 10/06/2003 8:50:34 PM PDT by John Lenin (Remember, we're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably far more than she's ever done)
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To: daviddennis
Probably NOT at the LA Times.
14 posted on 10/06/2003 8:55:45 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: deport; Timesink
Officials Warn of Absentee Vote Factor in Recall Election

In other words, the NYT is announcing the Dems' next stall tactic for when Davis loses tomorrow.

15 posted on 10/06/2003 8:57:03 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Prop 53: YES|Prop 54: YES|Recall: YES|Governor: TOM, but will settle for Arnie)
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To: deport
Gee.

Too bad.

Guess we should cancel the election - because people actually voted.
16 posted on 10/06/2003 8:57:26 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: John Lenin
Well, ya see - on "regular" elections, they can count ALL of them overnight .....

And LA County, San Diego County, and many internal counties have ALL their ballots on punch cards.
17 posted on 10/06/2003 8:59:04 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: John Lenin
Absentee ballots still use the old punch card system,


I wasn't aware of what they used..... wasn't sure if it was mark and X, fill in the circle, or what. If it's punch card then they should be able to count them relatively fast.
18 posted on 10/06/2003 9:01:09 PM PDT by deport
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
It's not the counting, its verifying the signatures and ensuring that they did not also vote in the poles, that takes the time
19 posted on 10/06/2003 9:04:28 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: deport
The dems will be at the court house steps at sunrise tuesday. The fraud allegations are already fabricated and ready for filing. Blacks and hispanics will be branded as being too stupid to know how to vote etc.
20 posted on 10/06/2003 9:10:04 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage
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