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Another Time for Choosing (McClintock for Governor)
October 6, 2003 | StoneColdGOP

Posted on 10/06/2003 9:52:32 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP

With Election Day voting just hours away, conservative voters need to take a hard look at their choices in the recall election. Voting "Yes" on the recall itself to oust Gray Davis is a no-brainer, as voters of all parties and ideologies up and down the state have signed the petitions and are responsible for successfully qualifying the historic ballot question.

But while the recall itself seems headed for a decisive victory, the matter of our failed governor's successor is one that should be causing conservative voters concern. Democrats, at least those willing to recognize Davis will not survive, logically gravitate to left-wing race-baiter and Mechista Cruz Bustamante, or unabashedly embrace their socialist colors by backing the Greens' Peter Camejo. And some of course refuse to acknowledge question two, insisting on a "No on Recall" line alone.

That of course leaves us with two candidates who are contenders for the votes of California's largely conservative Republicans. Oddly enough, only one of the two is himself a conservative, Senator Tom McClintock. The other is Arnold Schwarzenegger, an actor with moderate to liberal view on "troublesome" social issues, which some complain year in and year out are the reasons more traditional Republicans are unelectable to statewide office in California. And so, in the name of pragmatism, many solid conservatives have joined their more centrist colleagues in endorsing and supporting Schwarzenegger, many within days or hours of his entrance to the race and to the shock of many supporting the long-time and proven standard bearer of conservatism, Senator McClintock.

Mr. Schwarzenegger can boast the endorsement of most of California's Republican congressmen, senators and assemblymen, including many stalwart conservatives, as well as Lincoln Clubs up and down the state, the majority of the California Republican County Chairmen, and the Board of Directors (but not the full general membership, it should be noted) of the California Republican Party. McClintock's supporters include a handful of unwavering Republican legislators, Reagan advisor Lyn Nofziger, commentator Bruce Herschensohn, and the endorsement of the preeminent Republican volunteer organization in the state, the California Republican Assembly.

The common knock on Sen. McClintock, and thus the reason many say they won't vote for him, is that he just cannot win. This argument of course, is a self-fulfilling prophecy, if they all refuse to vote for him on the grounds he can't win, then obviously he won't. On the other hand, if voters who regard McClintock as their #1 choice (but settle pragmatically for someone else "electable") do vote their conscience and cast their ballot for McClintock, he CAN win. That however requires conservatives to unite, and ignore the pressure and tactics of Republican Party "leaders".

Enter the campaign to discredit Tom McClintock and discourage his legions of dedicated volunteers. The Republican Establishment is almost totally united against him, as they've never really been that fond of him. The past few weeks have seen not the kind of typically vicious attacks on McClintock from the liberal left we expect, they have instead come, sometimes openly and sometimes whispered, from other Republicans and conservatives. Some like Hugh Hewitt have continually talked down McClintock and his supporters, most recently equating a vote for McClintock to a vote for just about every despised leftist sort from Bill Clinton to the L.A. Times. One particularly poisonous opinion piece compared Sen. McClintock to Gray Davis, with "marginally better hair" (how charitable). Then came the arguments that McClintock's tenacity and stubborn refusal to drop out and hand the race to Mr. Schwarzenegger were the result of his blinding, personal and selfish ambition. Right, the same ambition led him to seek the all-powerful and celebrated job of� state controller. Twice. Especially when he could have easily been a serious contender for governor in 2002, eh? Then there were the charges of McClintock being tainted by taking EEEVIL Indian gaming money and being the beneficiary of Indian independent expenditures. I don't know that this one had much effect. I don't mind Indians. I don't mind gambling. And I don't mind Indians gambling, or offering the Pale Faces a way to gamble on their lands without taking the trip to Vegas. Besides, McClintock was on their side of the Indian sovereignty issue long before they were ever in a position to benefit him politically.

Finally there are the not too veiled threats to McClintock and his supporters of political irrelevance if he were to remain the race and cost the actor a win. There's also talk of recruiting a liberal Republican to run against and defeat Sen. McClintock in the primary next year for his re-election to the 19th Senate district seat if, as they expect, he loses the race for governor.

All this for a Republican who has steadfastly and resolutely stood for conservative values, fiscal responsibility, smaller government and lower taxes in the Legislature and never backed down. And he's never gone on record saying he's "embarrassed to be a Republican", either.

It's funny, because the voters I ran into this weekend while walking precincts DO remember and know what Tom has done for them and DO NOT share sentiments of retaliation and strong-arm tactics to force him from the race. Talk about a disconnect! Seems a rather large one exists between the Republican Establishment and the Republican grassroots and voters. In fact I found quite a few Republican voters quite adamant about supporting McClintock, no matter what the polls say. They were elated to know people were out campaigning for him and made it clear they'd help and try to get as many people as they could to support Tom. And I managed to convince some marginally Schwarzenegger voters to follow the prompting of their conscience and vote for Senator McClintock. They're all glad he stuck to his guns and stood his ground, no one I found wanted him to drop out.

Neither should anyone else. They should want him in the race and want him in to win, and not just keep his supporters' "Yes on Recall" votes in the equation. And yes, HE CAN WIN. All it takes is for every voter who believes Tom to best candidate to vote for him. All that is required for victory is for every voter who says Tom is his or her first choice to go ahead and support him.

That way, conservatives can stay true to their principles, Republican and other voters will know they have sided with the best man for the job, and with Tom McClintock as governor, the Republican Party will not suffer a leftward tilt that would ensure its eventual demise.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: endorsement; gopeatsitself; tommcclintock
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To: StoneColdGOP
Nope, thanks anyway.
81 posted on 10/06/2003 7:38:26 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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Never Forget

The Democrats and the L.A. Times must be defeated!!

82 posted on 10/06/2003 7:43:31 PM PDT by deport
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To: Dan from Michigan
Hillary's not running if Davis loses the recall is what you meant to say...
83 posted on 10/06/2003 8:36:23 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: StoneColdGOP
I have been wondering: If there was a theoretical Republican primary prior to this recall election, who would win? Would McClintock beat the movie star in such a primary?

And how about if another candidate was thrown into the mix, a candidate who was perceived by the surrender monkeys to have the best chance to "win" - - somebody like Warren Beatty, or Cher - - would the surrender monkeys make that person their GOP gubernatorial candidate?
84 posted on 10/06/2003 8:45:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: exmarine
Some people have principles and convictions, and some people are surrender monkeys.
85 posted on 10/06/2003 8:47:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ForOurFuture
Who is Kyle Reese?

John Connor's father.

86 posted on 10/06/2003 8:49:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Are you calling Jim Robinson a surrender monkey?!
87 posted on 10/06/2003 8:49:18 PM PDT by Tempest (9th inning of a winning game and you guys are still whining to trade pitchers?!)
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To: massadvj
If that means supporting affirmative action, state-funded abortion and socialist economics please count me out. I can get all that from the Democrats and they won't be hypocrites about supporting them.

I wonder then if you will vote for Bush next year. Based on the idea of "100% conservative" or nothing then the demorats will just walk right in and set right down.

88 posted on 10/07/2003 7:33:14 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: Tempest
Less then 24 hours left and you idiots are still trying to sink the recall?!

Y'know, all you AS supporters are gonna want to let bygones be bygones one day, sooner than later, I think.

So I'd lay off the abuse now if I were you.

89 posted on 10/07/2003 7:56:39 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: engrpat
I wonder then if you will vote for Bush next year

I haven't decided yet. I am extremely disappointed with the Bush domestic agenda, which has been far more liberal than Al Gore would ever have succeeded in implementing.

Bush seems to show no interest in stemming the tide of socialism. He is flooding the economy with cash to ensure a big Republican victory in 2006, the same way Nixon did in 1972. In Nixon's case, by 1974 we were in the worst recession of the post WWII era. I don't see how GWB can reverse the laws of economics and keep it from happening again.

The neocons are revealing themselves to be the most fiscally irresponsible of the political ideologies. Meanwhile, us lemmings here at Free Republic keep egging them on to victory without regard for the wisdom of what they do.

If we, the hard-core conservatives, do not hold the GOP's feet to the fire, who will?

90 posted on 10/07/2003 8:03:12 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: Protagoras; onyx; Tamsey; annyokie
The real winners will be the liberals if anyone other than McClintock wins. The losers of course will be the people of California. Not that they don't deserve it.

Protagoras, with posts like this, you prove my point why Tom McClintock will never again be elected dogcatcher in California. Supporters like you who believe that California should be punished or scourged for having the unmitigated temerity to disagree with you and your tiny band of Hairshirt Harrys and Bertha Better-Than-Yous.

Believe it or not (and I'm quite sure you don't believe it), people don't particularly appreciate being threatened with punishment for having opinions that differ from yours. And they rightly label you and the other Tombots as kooks for presuming to threaten to punish them.

The best part is, I don't have to lift a finger to damage your cause - you do it to yourself every time a Tombot posts with dire warnings of "The Wrath To Come" in California when Schwarzenegger wins. Keep it up, and thank you.

91 posted on 10/07/2003 8:10:28 AM PDT by strela (Will Tom McClintock have to "make a re$ervation" to pay back all that Indian money?)
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To: strela
Supporters like you

I'm not a supporter, and have never claimed to be. I stand by my comment. It has nothing to do with supporting anyone. If anyone on the ballot in California wins other than McClintock, a liberal will have been elected.

92 posted on 10/07/2003 8:16:34 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
I stand by my comment.

And I thank you for doing so. Beats workin'.

93 posted on 10/07/2003 8:18:20 AM PDT by strela (Will Tom McClintock have to "make a re$ervation" to pay back all that Indian money?)
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To: strela
McClintock for U.S. Senate!

Arnold for Governor!

Go California!!!


94 posted on 10/07/2003 8:24:43 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: strela
California is liberal hell. It will not change under another liberal.

It probably wouldn't change under a conservative.

The people are largely liberal. They deserve what they get. It should be an object lesson for the rest of the country. They (the rest of the country) probably won't get it either.

95 posted on 10/07/2003 8:26:52 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
If anyone on the ballot in California wins other than McClintock, a liberal will have been elected.

Funny how the liberals don't see it that way.

From Jessie Jackson, to Terry McCauluff, to the 10 presidential dwarfs, every liberal is in CA fighting against the Schwartzenegger campaign. While McClintock watches from the sidelines , Arnold is singlehandedly defeating a national effort by the liberals to maintain control of the largest state in the country.

96 posted on 10/07/2003 8:32:49 AM PDT by mac_truck (Ora et Labora)
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To: mac_truck
Funny how the liberals don't see it that way.

You underestimate them. They know. They are happy. DEMOCRAT useful idiots don't get it. Liberals get it.

From Jessie Jackson, to Terry McCauluff, to the 10 presidential dwarfs, every liberal is in CA fighting against the Schwartzenegger campaign.

Window dressing, they see it as a way to keep Davis. They know there is danger for them if this catches on in the rest of the country. It is the recall and the repudiation of their policies they fear.

While McClintock watches from the sidelines , Arnold is singlehandedly defeating a national effort by the liberals to maintain control of the largest state in the country.

Liberals will still control the state no matter who wins, including Mc Clintock. One man can't do it all. Most of the people are liberal. The Republicans are liberal and even most of the "conservatives" are left of center. Some people just want a fiscally responsible liberal. That is precisely what Arnold is running as.

97 posted on 10/07/2003 8:43:28 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: strela
LOL! You're in fine form this morning. :_) As for me, I'm 'fixin' to go vote for *gasp* Maria's husband.
98 posted on 10/07/2003 9:49:31 AM PDT by onyx (Ask the Indian$)
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To: Tempest; Lancey Howard
Exactly my question when I read LH post #85.
99 posted on 10/07/2003 10:00:46 AM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: LisaAnne
Perhaps I used poor phrasing.

What I meant to say was that those who support the pro-gun-control, pro-abortion, pro-welfare-for-illegals, pro-enviro-nazi, pro-homosexual adoption candidate (Arnold) are "surrender monkeys". These are the people who believe that California will only elect a liberal and so, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. They are greasing up and bending over, and saying, "Well, at least I can WIN.".

Other people, true conservatives who oppose what Arnold and his supporters stand for (partially listed in the previous sentence), will cast their votes based on their principles and convictions. Jim Robinson is a man whose opinions I respect more than any other poster on this site. He is a man of principles and convictions.

Sorry about the confusion.

Have a nice day,
LH
100 posted on 10/07/2003 10:13:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Conservatives, FLEE! Don't be the last white farmer in Zimbabwe!)
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