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California gun owners, George Bush is watching you
Keep and Bear Arms ^ | October 6, 2003 | David Codrea

Posted on 10/05/2003 9:39:47 PM PDT by Mini-14

California gun owners, George Bush is watching you.

Why?

Because on September 13, 2004, the unconstitutional federal ban against militia-suitable firearms and their standard capacity magazines is scheduled to sunset. 

So what does that have to do with George Bush?

The president has said he favors extending the ban, giving cover to the Republican-dominated Congress to reenact it, or even make it permanent and strengthen it, via the Conyers/McCarthy-introduced “Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003."

So why is George Bush watching California gun owners?

Because GOP gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger also supports banning “assault weapons” and enacting additionally restrictive “gun control” edicts. So if gun owners can be cowed into voting for Arnold, as opposed to proven Second Amendment champion Tom McClintock, Bush will have a pretty good indicator of just how far he can betray them without political consequences.

And if the polls are indicative of Tuesday’s election results, the answer will pretty much be “totally.”

If gun owners vote for Schwarzenegger, they will once more validate former Republican Party National Chair Lee Atwater’s cynical dismissal, “Where else do [they] have to go?”

Over the past few weeks, it has been demonstrated beyond dispute that Arnold is an enemy of the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Gun owners who vote for Arnold out of fear will have proven themselves every bit the manipulated cowards Atwater deemed them.

Arnold’s handlers tell us we must vote for him because McClintock is “too conservative” and cannot win. Yet a recent Gallup poll demonstrates “when McClintock is pitted against just Bustamante, among probable voters the Republican state senator beats the Democratic candidate handily -- by 19 percentage points.”

They offer a carrot, and tell us McClintock should bow out and run for future office, where he’ll have unified party support. What an empty promise—the same group of “moderates” opposing him now will have proven that their formula of compromise and betrayal works, write McClintock off again as “too conservative,” and push another “Big Tent” candidate—maybe even another one with Hollywood name recognition: The Republicans are making noises about running comedian Dennis Miller or actor Kelsey Grammer in future statewide races—both newly self-outed neocons who have never uttered a public word about the Second Amendment, and neither with the demonstrated political qualifications to run for dog catcher—but sure crowd pleasers for a celebrity-worshipping public.

And they offer a stick, telling us McClintock acting as a “spoiler” will end his political career, and promising to exact revenge on him later. What a hollow threat—as if any group so untethered from core values would have the guts in future contests to oppose any candidate they view as having the best chance—regardless of what he has or has not done.

As for splitting the Republican vote, it is Arnold’s backers who have done so—intentionally—in the culmination of what has been an ongoing struggle for “moderate” domination of Golden State GOP politics. The fact is, Gray Davis or Cruz Bustamante will be no worse for gun owners than Arnold Schwarzenegger. They might even be better, as Republican legislators would at least offer a nominal resistance to a Democrat governor, whereas with Arnold in office, they would be inclined to support him out of “party loyalty” (and what a pathetic oxymoron that has turned out to be.)

The fact is, if you let the GOP betray you and still reward them, you will have proven Lee Atwater was right.

The fact is, if you don’t vote for Tom McClintock, you will be telling all politicians who support us—and they are few and far between—that their faithfulness didn’t count, and that you will turn your back on them whenever someone bluffs you into thinking it is the “pragmatic” thing to do. If you do this, what incentive do you give the “good” politicians to ever stick their necks out for us?

On Tuesday, Oct. 7, I’ll be voting for Tom McClintock, and I’ll do so with a clear conscience. If it turns out that neither Arnold nor Tom wins, I’ll not feel even a twinge of guilt for my decision. I wouldn’t vote for Arnold even if Tom had dropped out, because the fact is, the Republicans haven’t turned their backs on him—they’ve turned them on the people Tom represents. Those who say otherwise just don’t get it—our rights are unalienable and inherent, and anyone who attacks them deserves nothing less than to be repelled.

The GOP establishment has denigrated the Second Amendment in this campaign as a mere “social issue” out of many, instead of what it really is—a keystone of a free republic. It’s time they learned that for some of us—I pray enough—their assault on our right to keep and bear arms under force of law is a declaration of war. So if “they” lose, tough. We gun owners are already living under evil, liberty-restricting edicts, and are in danger of having our lives destroyed if caught defying them.

Until the Republicans learn they cannot betray us, they can just feel our pain.

The fact is, George Bush and his handlers at the national level are watching this election very carefully. Because if gun owners don’t have the courage and integrity to take a principled stand, and through their numbers deny victory to a known antagonist, the future course of the Republican party will be clear.

After all, those leading it have proven to be nothing if not pragmatists.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2nd; amendment; bang; banglist; california; gun; guns; mcclintock; schwarzenegger; second
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To: Young Rhino
voting for a candidate who cannot win is not helpful...except to the opposition.

Can't win? I guess you missed this part of the above article: "recent Gallup poll demonstrates when McClintock is pitted against just Bustamante, among probable voters the Republican state senator beats the Democratic candidate handily -- by 19 percentage points.”

If the Rino Arnold stayed home like he should've, or if he drops out now, McClintock becomes the Governor of CA.

21 posted on 10/05/2003 10:27:46 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
"CA just sat and said nothing while the sitting Governor banned handguns"

Davis just signed a bill that requires a magazine safety, which effectively bans many handguns. The silence has been deafning.
I'll have to buy one of the S&W 1911s before the law takes effect I guess. :-)
22 posted on 10/05/2003 10:28:10 PM PDT by claudiustg
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To: Carry_Okie
It ain't half a loaf, it's about 5%. It isn't worth it.

Yes. Better to have Cruz BustaMECHA or Gray Davis than that 5%. Continue the GOP's strategy of losing on principle.

As for your "masticate feces" suggestion, I'll leave that to McClintock and his supporters on October 8th. I'm sure that McClintbots will fade back into the crevices of cyberspace, just like the Brigadiers did post-Nov. 2000...probably a remarkable overlap in membership between the two groups.

23 posted on 10/05/2003 10:29:50 PM PDT by Young Rhino (Do the French know the meaning of the words soap, water, and deodorant?)
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To: Young Rhino
There is a time and a place for this sort of logic -- I've used it myself on more than one occasion. But, as it happens, the choice between Arnold and Tom isn't one of them.

David's right: Cruz or Davis would be better than Arnold on the right to bear arms, which would be fine if there was some room to give on this issue in California. There isn't. Since you may not have the details, let me help:

It is currently illegal for a California resident to purchase an AR-15 variant of any kind.

The governor just signed a bill that will ban virtually all handguns currently offered for sale in this country.

The state legislature, for the past two years, has passed a bill through both houses to ban .50 BMG rifles. Tom will veto this, Arnold will sign it.

The state legislature, for the past two years, has passed legilsation to apply a tax ( 10 cents) on each round of ammunition sold in the state. Next year, Arnold will sign it, while Tom would veto.

With all due respect, you, not the McClintock camp are not "grasping the simple concept": we are up against the wall here. There is no half loaf to settle for. And this isn't some fringe issue, rather, it is central to the maintenance of a free society. Read David's article again, carefully, and you might get an inkling of just how serious the situation is here.
24 posted on 10/05/2003 10:30:30 PM PDT by absalom01 (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: claudiustg
Yeah, I just read a review of S&W's new 1911 in Guns and Ammo a few weeks ago. .....Looks impressive. But I'm looking to get the new Colt-Gunsite 1911.
25 posted on 10/05/2003 10:30:35 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
If the Rino Arnold stayed home like he should've, or if he drops out now, McClintock becomes the Governor of CA.

If wishes were fishes, your nets would be full. Alas, the candidate leading in the polls isn't going to drop out so that an ideological whore to the Indian gambling interests can pick up the mantle and lose tomorrow.

26 posted on 10/05/2003 10:32:01 PM PDT by Young Rhino (Do the French know the meaning of the words soap, water, and deodorant?)
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To: Mr. Mojo
sitting Governor banned handguns

That's going to be a big surprise to my buddies who sell guns. Their stores are loaded w/handguns.

Maybe she's talking about the safety tests. I had a devil of a time locating a couple of handguns that weren't on the list. Had to wait until private individuals sold on consignment. Now, the guns are so valuable, I'm afraid to shoot them.

27 posted on 10/05/2003 10:33:06 PM PDT by wheelgunguru
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To: Young Rhino
the candidate leading in the polls

We'll see how long that lasts.

28 posted on 10/05/2003 10:33:35 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
"But I'm looking to get the new Colt-Gunsite 1911."

I'll have to check it out. I haven't had a 1911 since I got rid of my Colt Gold Cup 20 years ago (big regret). I was hoping to get a CZ .223 Varmint with the H-S stock and either a Browning Citori Lightning 20ga or a Beretta Silver Hawk 20ga SxS first.
This last handgun bill just knocks the hell out of our choices. We're on our way to becoming Mass.
29 posted on 10/05/2003 10:40:55 PM PDT by claudiustg
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To: Young Rhino
Yes. Better to have Cruz BustaMECHA or Gray Davis than that 5%. Continue the GOP's strategy of losing on principle.

More stupid fear mongering. If the party of principle had ignored Arnold instead of being paralyzed in fear he'd be history. Bustamante is history. You've got nothing but a bubble going son.

I'm sure that McClintbots will fade back into the crevices of cyberspace, just like the Brigadiers did post-Nov. 2000...probably a remarkable overlap in membership between the two groups.

Oh we'll be back to clean up your mess, because you see, the policies won't change that much and you have no ideas to sell. That means the fiscal disaster will worsen and you'll have no base to do the legwork. You can't get away from that because it's economic and political reality.

30 posted on 10/05/2003 10:42:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Young Rhino
I guess that you didn't read the article or my reply and you only think that you read the Bible.

The article says that Tom CAN win. I didn't say that I would not vote. The Bible never sez that God helps those that help themselves.



31 posted on 10/05/2003 10:43:13 PM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Don't read much do ya?
32 posted on 10/05/2003 10:45:36 PM PDT by LaraCroft (Ping a ding ding)
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To: Badray
"God helps those that help themselves"

Was that Jimmy Stewart in Shenandoah?
33 posted on 10/05/2003 10:47:10 PM PDT by claudiustg
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To: LaraCroft
Certain handguns are indeed banned in CA, but you made the ignorant and sweeping statement that the sitting CA Gov "banned handguns."
34 posted on 10/05/2003 10:48:27 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Young Rhino
For gun owners Arnold is the opposition.
35 posted on 10/05/2003 10:55:02 PM PDT by elmer fudd
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To: Young Rhino
Young Rhino, whose flag is set to the great state of Texas, wrote:

I'm actually to the right of about 90% of those who post here.

So funny, don't think you'd know right if it stood in front of you. Y'all should go on Leno. "I just flew in from Beaumont, and boy! my arms are tired."

;-)

36 posted on 10/05/2003 11:00:06 PM PDT by SteveH ((why can't we all just get along??? ;-))
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To: Mr. Mojo
Oh you are so right.

I'll amend.... The sitting governor banned all handguns that are currently made. He did still leave legal some non-existant handguns that hopefully, someone will invent and manufacture in the future.

I'll return you to your regularly scheduled nap.
37 posted on 10/05/2003 11:05:26 PM PDT by LaraCroft (Ping a ding ding)
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To: SteveH; Young Rhino
Maybe Young Rhino thinks that saddling California with Arnold will continue to force our business to Texas.

On that he'd be right.
38 posted on 10/05/2003 11:06:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: elmer fudd
Think about this. Hispanics are heavily represented at the ranges and on the hunting fields, yet something like 85% of the Hispanic vote went to Davis in the last election. We are failing to get Hispanic support through the NRA or Republican Party for pro-gun policies and candidates. Isn't the party wise to pander to the disgrutled Democrat majority on economic grounds?
It is the first job of the party to elect Republican candidates.
39 posted on 10/05/2003 11:07:29 PM PDT by claudiustg
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To: LaraCroft
The sitting governor banned all handguns that are currently made.

Wrong again; You seem to make a habit of it. (Your reputation precedes you, unfortunately). Tell you what, why don't you call any gun dealer in CA tomorrow and ask them if any new "currently made" handguns are available for purchase. Of course, I don't expect you to apologize when you're proven wrong.....yet again.

40 posted on 10/05/2003 11:10:06 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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