[doug from upland]

You just won't it give up. Thanks for bringing it to my song thread. David Schippers, a hero of mine, twice voted for Clinton. Many of the gutless GOP didn't want Clinton convicted and didn't work very hard to make it happen. I guess they should all resign.

I am going to hold my hose and vote for Arnold. WE HAVE TO GET RID OF GRAY DAVIS AND PUT SOMEONE IN THERE WHO WILL AUDIT THE BOOKS AND START VETOING RAT LEGISLATION. You just can't accept that McClintock cannot win. You are living in a dream world. When I was 16, I worked in the Goldwater campaign. I kept hoping and hoping and hoping that just another 10% of people would change their minds. It didn't happen. Goldwater actually said some nice things about Clinton at the end of his life. I guess I should trash Barry's memory. There is such thing as political reality, no matter how distasteful. We'll do the best we can with what we get. Some Nader voters thought he was electable. Yes, some really did.

[tallhappy]

You just can't accept that McClintock cannot win.

I accept that.

Why vote for someone who cared not a whit about Clinton's behavior and said he was ashamed to be a Republican.

How can you vote for someone who said publicly in a magainze interview:

I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period...Instead of devoting all this energy and all these hearings to how we're going to solve the problems of the inner cities . . . No, it's like, 'This man has to be removed from office because he's a national threat.' Yeah, that's a good one.

Solving the inner city problems -- yeah, that's a good one.

If you think someone who could not recognize Clinton as a national threat, be my guest.

I won't.