Posted on 10/05/2003 3:18:56 PM PDT by truthandlife
If there is anyone left who truly believes the Republican Party is committed to genuine conservative principles, the candidacy of bodybuilder/actor Arnold Schwarzenegger to be California's next governor should be enough to set the record straight.
Despite Schwarzenegger's extreme liberal views, he has won praise from Republicans nationwide. On virtually every issue worth noting, Schwarzenegger comes down on the left side of the page.
Schwarzenegger is pro-abortion, pro-homosexual rights, pro-gun control, pro-green, and pro-illegal immigration. He even said that Clinton's impeachment made him "ashamed" to call himself a Republican.
Furthermore, Schwarzenegger's immoral escapades make even Bill Clinton look unsoiled. He once bragged in an Oui magazine interview about participating in sex orgies, not to mention his repeated admissions of drug use.
In spite of his personal and philosophical discrepancies, Schwarzenegger has received accolades from notable conservatives such as Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Pat Robertson, not to mention practically the entire national Republican hierarchy.
Writing for The New York Times, Frank Rich correctly observed, "It is hilarious to watch conservatives, the same conservatives who often decry phony Hollywood liberals and their followers, betray their own inviolate principles to bask in Arnold's hulking movie-star aura so that they might possibly gain a nominal Republican victory in the bargain."
By supporting a liberal such as Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republicans demonstrate that they have no real loyalty to conservative principles. Beyond that, by supporting Schwarzenegger, they have turned their backs on a true conservative gubernatorial candidate, Tom McClintock.
However, people who are paying attention know that this is the rule, not the exception, for the Republican Party. In race after race, Republican heavyweights will throw their support behind a liberal candidate and will starve out a conservative candidate. This is not an accident or a coincidence. It is the party's plan A. The Republican Party no more desires conservatives in political office than the Democratic Party does, and people who think otherwise are only deceiving themselves.
At some point, conservatives must awaken to the reality that they do not have a political party in Washington, D.C., that represents them. They must, at some point, be willing to abandon the Republican Party and unite around a party and a candidate that will courageously and consistently promote their principles. Can I get a second for Judge Roy Moore and the Constitution Party?
Yes it is a very powerful bloc and with commendable ideals to say the least, however perhaps working a different way of messaging, dressed to be appealing to moderates, could achieve a draw from moderate voters....just a thought.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/993985/posts
3 days ago with 200 replies.
If only FR had a search feature so you could check to see if something had already been posted . . .
Evangelicals are really good at staying home on election day. If they actually got off their asses and voted, the GOP would be nationally dominant and brimming with elected conservatives. But half the time evangelicals stay home, and we're left with a mix of excellent conservatives, fiscal conservatives, and "moderates".
On that you are silent. If you dont even acknowledge the full set of facts going on, you can sure make people seem worse than they are ... and that holds true for MANY principled conservatives who decided to support Arnold for the simple main reason that Cali needs to get its fiscal house in order. Argue the *real* issues. Debating strawmen is poor form.
BTW, the Republican Party is *us*.
Thanks for at least being honest. I will tell you right now that the Republican Party will be in big trouble if they decide to reject Christian conservatives. I know you don't like to hear this but some six out of seven voting-age Americans are Christians.
What makes evangelical Christians so powerful, Pew found, was their consistency on the issues. "The fact that this group expresses a consistent set of conservative political attitudes and is extremely active politically makes evangelicals Christians a powerful voting bloc,They're more apt to vote than other groups. With priorities going beyond core moral concerns over abortion and homosexuality, two-thirds of self-proclaimed religious conservatives are likely to vote, versus roughly half of all Americans.
This is a very powerful bloc and if people like you say we can get these votes from moderates, think again.
You are an excellent example of the old saying that "Liars Can Figure But Figures Don't Lie". If your claims were true then the GOP should be winning elections by huge majorities but the truth is that isn't happening and it isn't going to happen.
You and your ilk will do whatever it takes to implement the Theocracy that you crave. If that means twisting the facts and lieing to meet your goals then so be it.
The Truth is that most Christians don't buy your warped agenda and your kind have forced more people away from the GOP and into the arms of the Democrats than you have ever brought to the table.
The GOP has always been about Fiscal Conservatism, now your kind are willing to sacrifice that heritage at the alter of religous zealotry.
Go away, we don't need you and don't want to be perceived as being associated with you. Take Roy and his rock with you when you go. And please don't let the door hit you on the a$$ on the way out.
Dittos on that ... There are these prickly all-or-nothing personalities that demand 100% or they wont vote for the party. They forget that 'united we stand, divided we fall' and sow discord and internicine fighting. Such unreliable voters by definition *cant* be the base of the party, so it gets 'stolen' by other constituencies, and the party gets weakened as compared to the Democrats .... End result? The leftists win!!
If you want the Republican party to represent YOU, stand up and represent the Party.
Okay, let's talk about how to search:
Sometimes titles are a little bit different when published in different places. Sometimes a word is left out. There's a search feature -- it's the default, actually -- called "match any word". Using that search, that other thread would have come up first. If you're going to use "match all words", it's best to search for a couple of key words, such as "Republican" and "Conservatism", which would return that other thread 2nd.
Do that and the Republican party will be like the Tory party of Canada. A minority party and an ineffective antidote to the onslaught of cultural socialism.
You are an excellent example of the old saying that "Liars Can Figure But Figures Don't Lie". If your claims were true then the GOP should be winning elections by huge majorities but the truth is that isn't happening and it isn't going to happen. Um, havent you noticed that since 1988, GOP has won statehouses, state legislatures, and both houses of Congress???
You and your ilk will do whatever it takes to implement the Theocracy that you crave. If that means twisting the facts and lieing to meet your goals then so be it. I'd expect lies like this from a DU disruptor, not anyone claiming to It is an utter lie that cultural conservative politicians (think Santorum, or Pat Roberts, or Tom DeLay), or the evangelical voters, want a 'theocracy'.
The Truth is that most Christians don't buy your warped agenda What is 'warped' about - pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-fatherhood, pro-freedom-of-religious-expression, pro-values, etc.
What specific proposals of cultural conservative Republicans are so bad?
and your kind have forced more people away from the GOP and into the arms of the Democrats than you have ever brought to the table. Polls prove otherwise.
The GOP has always been about Fiscal Conservatism, now your kind are willing to sacrifice that heritage at the alter of religous zealotry. The modern American Conservatism that is the heart of the GOP has been about much more than green eyeshades. It has been build first on the essential belief in freedom and limited Government, and that property rights, low taxation and freedom are not just essential for proseperity but are rights of man; informed by the view that a people cannot long be free if they are not virtuous, and so belives in a Government that support family and moral values and doesnt undermine it; and believes in families and communities and voluntary organizations and groups, the 'little platoons' that make America the best nation on earth. It has been summed up as - faith, family and freedom. Knock a leg off and the chair falls down.
That’s true. The whole spectacle of so-called "conservatives" like Hannity and Rush praising a hard-left candidate like Schwarzenkennedy over a true conservative like Tom McClintock was a real eye-opener to me.
That and the fact that lots of rank-and-file repub's on this board also pick a far-left, serial-groping, gang-banging, pot smoking ex-roid freak because he has an R beside his name.
And if you were told during that primary that if Tom were to win it, he'd have no chance against a democrat in the general election because a conservative can't win in California and only a socially liberal Republican could win, and that it is IMPERATIVE that Tom not win the primary for the good of the Party and to assure a win in the general election, what would you do?
Hb
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.