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To: ambrose
This information has been out there for years. That being the case, the Los Angeles Times is tampering with an election process. I don't know how or if there is a way to take the Times to task for this, but there ought to be a way.

That being said, Schwarzenegger is a low-life to have mis-behaved in this manner. I don't think it will cost him the election, but I'd like to think it might scare him straight. I doubt it will.

It bothers me when people on my side state that the women liked it, or a woman would be lucky to have him do this, or that it makes Arnold look more verile. No, it makes him look ugly and beastly. Real men don't abuse women. They are confident in themselves and treat women with the same respect they would want their mothers, wifes, girlfriends or daughters treated with.

We are given the choice of a socialist brown separatist, or a serial groper. I opt for the groper, but I'll say it like it is. This guy should be on a very short leash. If he steps out of line at all, he should be recalled immediately.

Schwarzenegger has done some despicable things, and some good things in his life. This may be a chance for him to turn it around. I believe he's going to get that chance. He better damn well take advantage of it. The first indication that he isn't, please contact me to help any way I can in removing him from office.

If the guy has an ounce of class, he'll make another statement after he is elected expressing his sorrow at his former actions, promising to live his life by a higher standard. Then he better do it.
32 posted on 10/05/2003 12:35:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
This is in fact Gray Davis' m.o and why he's perfected negative politics. He can't win on his record but he can prevail if he can make Arnold unacceptable to enough people that they'll stick with the devil they know. This is exactly the kind of environment he thrives in. At the beginning of the week he was definitely on the ropes. If Arnold is weakened enough by these attacks he may pull off an upset. Don't underestimate him cause the whole point of tagging Arnold as a serial groper is to get people to conclude Davis is the lesser of two evils. It certainly worked against Bill Simon after Simon turned out to be a crooked businessman.
35 posted on 10/05/2003 12:41:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: DoughtyOne
If the Slimes had dropped this stink bomb back in August, Peter Ueberroth would have likely taken Arnold's place as the front-runner. Who knows, maybe even McClintock?

Instead, the Slimes allowed millions of people to cast absentees (which might actually save the recall!), and waited until all viable replacement candidates had been eliminated from the running, to turn its pages into a National Enquirer-like rag. Why? For the sole purpose of keeping Gray Davis in office.

As much as I believe the GOP establishment sucks for ramming Arnold down our throats in a bandwagon stampede, that genie can't be put back into the bottle. What's done is done. We can't allow Grayout to remain in office. Like you said, we can always recall Arnold should he continue these hijinx while in office.
42 posted on 10/05/2003 12:50:56 AM PDT by ambrose
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To: DoughtyOne
Giving a few beautiful women an appreciative pat on their asses during the filming of a movie on a rowdy set does not make Arnold what Bill Clinton was and is: a serial rapist!
43 posted on 10/05/2003 12:51:42 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Read Sun Tzu: The Cold War Never Ended)
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To: DoughtyOne
That being said, Schwarzenegger is a low-life to have mis-behaved in this manner.

And just how has he actually behaved? All we have are unsubstantiated accusations. He has admitted to behavior that he now realizes and admits is and was wrong--without describing the behavior in any detail, and without admitting that the LAT accusations have any specific legitimacy. For all we know, all the LAT accusations are either fabricated or greatly exaggerated.

More importantly, he has not committed perjury, obstructed justice, looked us in the eye and lied with great pomposity and seriousness, or portrayed himself as the world's foremost defender of women and women's rights.

45 posted on 10/05/2003 1:02:33 AM PDT by sourcery (Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Well, this campaign against him certainly seems to have convinced you. Why believe it all? You assume it is all correct. I'm rather surprised. You keep calling him disgusting, deeply flawed, despicable. So if he wins he starts off with this as his legacy when possibly (ever consider it?) these are not real cases. Anonymous ones. Trivial ones. Long-ago ones. And often refuted by others. Ever consider they are contrived? But if you automatically believe it all then the Dems win either way...he either loses the election, or his credibility as a new governor has been completely compromised. And probably by as big of lies and exaggerations they are now throwing at Pres. Bush and Rush Limbaugh.

Think of that fraudulant Hitler charges. He has been an overt supporter of Jewish causes and Holocaust survivors for years. Yet the DNC goes along with the misquote and all of them demand he apologize. For what? A sham. A lie from the other side, and a very blatant one. He has done more for Israelis than most of us put together. And if the long-ago quote is correct (and even that hasn't been proven) he never once said he admired anything about the dictator than his ability to captivate the attention of a crowd as a speaker. He said it in his 20's as a recent immigrant from Hitler's native land. And in a language he at the time barely knew. IF he even said it. No adoration there for the man whose followers he once chased out of Graz. And he has been trying to compensate for the sins of his nation all his life...ones that occurred before he was born.

Let's quit believing the last-minute smears from the other side. Be skeptical, as you probably would if they were about McClintock or some of the other more traditional candidates. At least give him the benefit of the doubt as so many of you quickly did Kobe Bryant...innocent until PROVEN guilty, remember?
63 posted on 10/05/2003 1:20:07 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: DoughtyOne
Well said. Kudos.
87 posted on 10/05/2003 1:47:51 AM PDT by calcowgirl (Right Wing Crazy #4052977)
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To: DoughtyOne
verile virile

;-)

93 posted on 10/05/2003 2:07:06 AM PDT by SteveH ((why can't we all just get along??? ;-))
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To: DoughtyOne
Excellent post, every voter should be as practical and thoughtful as you!
131 posted on 10/05/2003 1:33:56 PM PDT by AlbionGirl (A kite flies highest against the wind, not with it. - Winston Churchill)
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