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A Missing Statistic: U.S. Jobs That Went Overseas
The NY Times ^ | 100503 | LOUIS UCHITELLE

Posted on 10/04/2003 2:52:53 PM PDT by Archangelsk

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1 posted on 10/04/2003 2:52:54 PM PDT by Archangelsk
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Let's keep the Dem's on the run!
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2 posted on 10/04/2003 2:54:00 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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And before anyone gets all prehistoric, consider the cost of retraining the skilled workers (engineers, accountants, etc.) who have been displaced and who is going to bear the cost.
3 posted on 10/04/2003 2:55:22 PM PDT by Archangelsk (Air conditioners are for wimps.)
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Ping!
4 posted on 10/04/2003 2:56:04 PM PDT by TopDog2
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To: Archangelsk
They didn't "went" overseas. They were forced to relocate because of all the constraints and costs Liberalism has imposed on them and I don't blame them.

Payroll taxes, mandatory health insurance, OSHA regulations, EPA regulations, hiring regulations, firing regulations, worker's comp, disability, and hundreds of other government imposed sanctions on businesses is what is causing these companies to bug out.

You ever wonder why so few Liberals are entrepreneurs? Because they know damn well just how many ludicrous hurdles there are for them to jump just to keep a government agency or lawyer from coming in and relieving them from every penny they've ever earned.

Hypocrites. We need to outsource Liberalism.

5 posted on 10/04/2003 3:03:20 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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Already posted ..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/995166/posts
6 posted on 10/04/2003 3:05:44 PM PDT by WOSG (DONT PUT CALI ON CRUZ CONTROL & VOTE YES ON 54!)
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To: Archangelsk
The answer is simple: require employers to hire 1 new worker for every, oh, 20 they have now. At a living wage, of course. Presto, unemployment vanishes.
7 posted on 10/04/2003 3:05:55 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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If you had done a search you would have found the article already posted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/995166/posts
8 posted on 10/04/2003 3:08:16 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Archangelsk
My job didn't go anywhere. My job belongs to me. I was born with it. Nobody can send it away. I take it with me everywhere.
9 posted on 10/04/2003 3:27:05 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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how much of jobs going overseas belongs in the unions' lap?

i remember back in the late 1980s lockheed ship workers went on strike. after a few weeks the union went to the democRATs in olympia and more or less demanded unemployment benefits be given to the strikers. after a couple of days lockheed said go ahead and give it to the workers as we are going to sell everything and shut down.

lots of high paying jobs were lost.


10 posted on 10/04/2003 4:00:13 PM PDT by camas
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A Missing Statistic: U.S. Jobs That Went Overseas

Bush is a one termer...(see my tag line)

11 posted on 10/04/2003 4:53:44 PM PDT by Lael (Bush to Middle Class: Send your kids to DIE in Iraq while I send your LIVELIHOODS to INDIA!)
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To: Texas Eagle
They didn't "went" overseas. They were forced to relocate because of all the constraints and costs Liberalism has imposed on them and I don't blame them.

Payroll taxes, mandatory health insurance, OSHA regulations, EPA regulations, hiring regulations, firing regulations, worker's comp, disability, and hundreds of other government imposed sanctions on businesses is what is causing these companies to bug out.

Not to mention out of control litigation in this country which is jacking up the cost of doing business here as well.

Lawyers are destroying this country.

12 posted on 10/04/2003 6:10:14 PM PDT by Jorge
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Excuse me? We had the same conditions here 100 years ago that the overseas employers have now. Is it your contention that we (you and I, buddy) should give up the American Way of life because it is cheaper for CORPORATIONS?

Get a grip.
13 posted on 10/04/2003 7:05:19 PM PDT by Harlequin (the difference between theory and practice is bigger in practice than in theory)
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To: Jorge
Not to mention out of control litigation in this country which is jacking up the cost of doing business here as well.

Amen.

14 posted on 10/04/2003 7:08:04 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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A)We had the same conditions here 100 years ago that the overseas employers have now.

Um, it is no longer 100 years ago.

B) Is it your contention that we (you and I, buddy) should give up the American Way of life because it is cheaper for CORPORATIONS?

No. Wait. Because what is cheaper for CORPORATIONS?

15 posted on 10/04/2003 7:11:04 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
And your point would be....?
16 posted on 10/04/2003 8:13:40 PM PDT by Harlequin (the difference between theory and practice is bigger in practice than in theory)
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To: Archangelsk
Someone has to make it clear in the public arena what is going on here. Ok, in Silicon Valley you are a computer engineer and you make a measly $100,000, barely enough to get by there unless you live in a cheap apartment. Your employer pays $7650 in Social Security and Medicare taxes, $9000 for Worker's Comp, $6000 or so in health insurance, making the minimum your employer has to pay out just for you(not including things like unemployment insurance) $122,650. If your employer can get the same job done in India or China for $3000, which one would he choose? If the employer is listed on the stock exchange, he is there to make profits for the stockholders, not to make employees happy. Which is more profitable for the stock holders? No wonder the stock market is going up despite the loss of jobs.
17 posted on 10/04/2003 8:26:49 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: Archangelsk
Bump
18 posted on 10/04/2003 8:34:48 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Lael
Your Socialist mantra tagline is oh, so clever. Let me guess, you’re a Plagiarism major.

Be very worried about your inability to compete in the international marketplace.

But don’t dwell upon those high paid workers from India. Given your demonstrated ability to regurgitate socialist rhetoric; a parrot is more likely to replace you for the wages of stale crackers.

For the rest of us, those who carefully chose our vocation and who utilize critical thinking skills; we understand that wages are based upon the value an employee brings to an organization. Each day one should ask their self, is my employer better off by keeping me well paid, or is the employer better off by hiring someone else?
19 posted on 10/04/2003 9:26:20 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (Write a wise saying and your name lives forever.)
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To: Lael
Your tag line is quite similar to mine. Coincidence?
20 posted on 10/04/2003 9:29:18 PM PDT by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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