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1 posted on 10/03/2003 1:01:27 PM PDT by Heartlander
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Why don't we start a group devoted to separation of atheism and state? Atheism has become our national religion, in violation of the 1st Amendment.
2 posted on 10/03/2003 1:24:58 PM PDT by Defiant (Help McClintock start the Boxer Rebellion. Vote for Arnold!)
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3 posted on 10/03/2003 1:26:45 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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4 posted on 10/03/2003 1:41:14 PM PDT by VOA
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5 posted on 10/03/2003 1:45:08 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Cornell University professors Isaac Kramnick and R. Laurence Moore argue that the God-fearing framers of the U. S. Constitution "created an utterly secular state" unshackled from the intolerant chains of religion.

There is ample reason for the Cornell professors to take that position. The Constitution does not mention God or refer to man's religion; nor should it. The Constitution is not about man, it about the government. However, I disagree with their use of the words "utterly" and "unshackled". Those words imply that the God-fearing framers of the Constitution created a secular state totally and absolutely unencumbered by religion. This is false.

My reason for asserting that it is false is found in a portion of the Constitution which does refer to man; the preamble to the Constitution.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The framers were promulgating exactly why they were establishing this Constitution. The words secure the Blessings of Liberty are in bold because I believe that the framers of the Constitution were asking God for his blessing in this endeavor. God’s blessing would not have been sought if this Constitutional endeavor were to “create an utterly secular state”.

6 posted on 10/03/2003 2:20:42 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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8 posted on 08/16/2004 4:25:27 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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