Posted on 10/03/2003 10:42:34 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
Given his leftist green platform, no.
His victory actually would harm the conservative cause a lot.
What Arnold campaigns on is irrelevant. What he does is all that matters. And, if he gets in an listens to the Kennedys and Warren Buffett, he'll be a disaster.
Another Tom can't win, Arnold sycophant.
I respect Stephen Moore for his economic beliefs. On this political issue, he's deadwrong!
I take exception to Stephen Moore's political positioning on this overall issue and his reluctant support for Arnie the liberal. Conservative Republican Tom McClintock is the best man and the best candidate for the job. Not withstanding Arnie's pop cult icon and Hollywood superstar status. When Arnie received 23% in that first poll released after he announced, it was obvious people didn't care about the issues of the recall campaign. Many Californian Republicans reluctantly jumped on the Arnie bandwagon. They also said, "but Tom can't win". From the beginning, that's been a red herring, based on very weak political reasoning.
As the last Gallup poll clearly indicated, without Arnie in the race, McClintock would beat Bustamonte and by a significant margin of something like, 54% to 38%.
Point that part out.
And, I've given him credit where credit is due.
In reality, Arnie is in the race.
I'm not trying to hector you here, but I am a Californian who has been on the Arnie-McClintock fence, and I have just about decided to vote for Arnie because with the current field, I have concluded that McClintock can't win.
I do like McClintock's policies, but after voting for Republican standard-bearer losers like Dan Lundgren, Matt Fong, and Bill Simon, I am ready to change strategy.
If you can paint me a realistic scenario where Arnie drops out by next Tuesday, or where McClintock can defeat Arnie, please lay it out...right now Arnie gets my vote.
You're not paying attention.
I will repeat, for your edification.
I clearly stated:
"I've never said once, that McClintock was going to win."
There was a time, a scenario did exist, under which McClintock could have won the recall race and I touched on it in my response to you. But again, you're not paying attention. If you want me to better connect the dots for you, fine. I will, one last time.
"... Arnie's pop cult icon and Hollywood superstar status. When Arnie received 23% in that first poll released after he announced, it was obvious people didn't care about the issues of the recall campaign. Many Californian Republicans reluctantly jumped on the Arnie bandwagon. They also said, "but Tom can't win". From the beginning, that's been a red herring, based on very weak political reasoning."
In other words, voters first needed to be logical and rational in their thinking. It didn't look like a serious effort to me, that so many people were willing to jump on the Arnold bandwagon, without first analyzing and evaluating the issues. If people had taken that time and were serious about the politics of Arnie, they would be standing behind Tom McClintock today and not supporting the liberal candidate in this case, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I hope that helps to clear up your confusion.
Thank GOODNESS all those pro-abortion Republicans are "fiscal conservatives"
1998: RINO candidate George H. Ryan said Sunday "Underlying my entire campaign is this promise to taxpayers: 'I will NOT raise taxes'. To do so during times of distress is bad enough, to do so during times of prospirity is unconciseable." Later, he admitted he would not absolutely rule out taxes for any reason, but said he saw no reason why taxes would need to be raised.
1999: RINO Governor George H. Ryan breaks 'no new taxes' pledege by proposing a $12 billion public works program that would be funded by doubling the state's vehicle registration taxes to $96 and increasing taxes on alcohol. Ryan's entire program, called Illinois FIRST, a Fund for Infrastructure, Roads, Schools & Transit, includes a state commitment of $6.3 billion. He bristled at the suggestion that he was reneging on his campaign. "I obviously changed my mind" said Ryan
But, alas, Tom's chances of winning the race, notwithstanding his winning message, are slim.
Then you went on to say, On this political issue, he's deadwrong! You also used the present tense.
I found the Moore citation completely reasonable and correct, and I was interested in whether you really thought it was 'deadwrong', and why.
Then you unexpectedly changed the subject to the condition of the race many weeks ago, and to a hypothetical race with Arnie not included. None of this has any relevance to the Moore statement, your refutation, nor to any portion of the article itself.
There's no reason to get accusatory and insulting with a Freeper for responding to your posted words and not your unstated and unrelated thoughts.
The fact that you, as an apparently avid McClintock supporter, repeatedly and boldly disavow any optimism for his chances only reinforces my initial perception that Moore is correct, and that your refutation is wrong. On that I have very little 'confusion'.
Hasta la vista.
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