Palm Beach Post - Limbaugh linked to painkillers

PalmBeachPost.com ^ | October 3, 2003 | John Pacenti and Mary McLachlin

[af_vet_1981]

She started to keep a log of her purchases, she said, and within the first 47 days she delivered 4,350 pills to Limbaugh.

She said Limbaugh became increasingly paranoid, one time groping her to see whether she was wearing a wire for the authorities.

He tried to kick his habit again at a New York hospital to no avail, she said, and piled up drug bills of $80,000.

In 2002, Wilma Cline said, a Palm Beach attorney showed up on her doorstep, gave her a check for $100,000 and made her sign a promissory note, but said the "loan" would never be collected. Four months later, in November, the attorney gave her a check for $100,000 and told her not to give Limbaugh any more pills.

The attorney also told her to hand over the computer retaining Limbaugh's e-mails, Wilma Cline said, but she took the hard drive from another computer and smashed it in front of him. Then the Clines sought legal help.

These are the most damaging allegations I've read. Two checks for 100k each should be easy to trace. I wonder what the tax implications were.

[wardaddy]

Yeah, I'd say 2 checks for 100K each would be pretty easy to cough up proof of for a maid making 370/week.


This is one facet though that makes me really wonder. Her attorney, Ed Shohat is no dummy even though a major Rat and I'm wondering why he has not to our knowledge offered proof of these payoffs yet.

...if they even exist.

[af_vet_1981]

Rush must have trusted her to let her into his home. I'm content to wait for Rush to tell us everything, "more than we want to know" as long as he did not hurt another person. I've heard no allegations he did that.

[wardaddy]

It would not bother you if Rush were a dopehead?

if these allegations are true.

[LittleJoe]

My point is that we have to hold our conservative heroes and icons to the same standards of behavior as we do liberals

Maybe we should stop thinking of them as icons. I'm not a hero worshiper. I respect what the man has to say. I respect him as a man, not a prophet.

As far as working within the system goes, I guess I didn't make my point by going back to the founders. I'll try a more recent example.

Segregation laws were not overturned by politicians, the courts or people working within the system. They were overturned by people breaking those laws.

[af_vet_1981]

I think he most likely was addicted to prescription drugs and it bothers me a greal deal. His credibility with me is diminished. I would be hard pressed to vote for him in any election.

[Howlin]

and what happen to their rat counter parts, Byrd, Clinton, Leahy....NOTHING

But isn't that the point? We're suppose to be BETTER than they are.

[johnwayne]

Agreed

[wardaddy]

Segregation laws were not overturned by politicians, the courts or people working within the system. They were overturned by people breaking those laws.

That is inaccurate. The civil disobedience and marches etc. brought about legislative and judicial action. Action whose fruits are still rather mixed results btw.

[wardaddy]

yep.

[A. Pole]

At the basic level of good v. evil though, I have a difficult time with branding God as a Republican. Perhaps a more likely notion is that more of the crumbling homage to absolute truths and moral restraint are embodied in the American conservative agenda and, therefore, our particular vehicle of Republicanism is the last gasp of 'good' in the early part of the 21st century.

No political party has monopoly on truth. I think that the fragments of truth are present on the right and on the left and probably most is outside of the political spectrum.

"But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound" (St. Paul, Romans 5:20)

[185JHP]

You've done admirable work on this. We're supposed to be "right is right and wrong is wrong" people, not "hey, if it's a guy we like, whose work is helpful to our cause..." people. Then we become like George Poppycockopolous types. There are two levels to this thing, both of which have to be dealt with: (1) a "feel good/feel better" drug addiction, equaling a weakness of character, and (2) criminality. And BTW you don't have to forgive anyone unless they (believably) ask for it. Our Lord doesn't require of us something He isn't willing to do.

[wardaddy]

Bluntpoint said earlier yesterday that we should try not to let our bias cloud our perspective.

I agree with that.

I hope that all we are hearing is not true. If it is, then it won't matter much what we all here think. The damage will be done and irreversible.

Forgiveness is fine but compromised is still compromised.

I know.....I am (was) a compromised individual myself.

Rush will have to just dust off and see where he goes from here but he will fall hard..no doubt....at least for a time.

And conservatism will have to answer for his mistake...rightly or wrongly.....the scrutiny of rightists by our culture is patently unfair but it is there nonetheless.

If he is guilty that is...

Regards

[185JHP]

It's a question of honor - if there's anything to the allegations. The emails will be important. They can't be faked well enough to fool pros. I don't buy this gal using "password cracking" software to break into a Rush computer to send emails to herself... FReegards

[LittleJoe]

That is inaccurate. The civil disobedience and marches etc. brought about legislative and judicial action. Action whose fruits are still rather mixed results btw.

No, that is very accurate. There would have been no judicial or legislative action without the civil disobediance. The same was true for prohibition.

Marches were media events. The masses violating the law is what caused the changes.

I do agree about the mixed fruits...lol

[Cacophonous]

I would answer that Newt, Livingstone, Bennett, et al, lowered themselves.

[Don Munn]

and then you want Rush out and then who next.

You stand in a circle and shoot yourself.

Principles are fine, to a point, but you can so far that no one is left standing because no one can live up to your principles.

[wardaddy]

I support civil disobedience.

I wish every gunowner in this nation would march on DC weapons in hand as a message.

I would also like to see the same by pro-life folks.

You are right that sometimes it takes these measure to get lawmakers to pay attention.

[LittleJoe]

Yes, tyrants always demand that their subjects "work within the system".

It's a sad fact that the system always defends itself against change, even when change is for the better. That's just the nature of the beast.

[LittleJoe]

They can't be faked well enough to fool pros

Yes they can.