Palm Beach Post - Limbaugh linked to painkillers

PalmBeachPost.com ^ | October 3, 2003 | John Pacenti and Mary McLachlin

[wardaddy]

he GAVE not "we" GAVE

my bad.

[wardaddy]

One could take 50 2.5mg Lortabs or Vicodin daily. I have known a man who took 10 10mg Lortabs at one time. Granted, he had a huge tolerance and worse.....he was a cop....was, he lost that.

For normal folks about 10mg of hydrocodone in a 4-6 hour period is plenty for moderate pain.

For severe pain, one would normally go on to morphine, dilaudid or fentanyl with a phenagran kicker/anti-emetic.

The levels being tossed about here are not for pain management although they may have started as such, they became something bigger....getting high.

Allegedly.

[snopercod]

I will lament his slide and the advantage our foes gained from it.

I really think there may be a tiny bit of truth hidden somewhere in this smear, but I really doubt the totality of the incredible story this maid has come up with.

But suppose for a minute that it all turned out to be true and Rush went on the air one day and admitted that at one time he did have a drug problem. What will the results be? Will he lose his listeners? Some of them? Will he lose his advertisers? Will he go off the air and retire?

And what about the so-called "compassionate" liberals who "love" everybody and feel their pain, but right now are dancing while digging his grave in anticipation of his demise? Do you think that the America public can't see which is worse: A celebrity with a drug problem or a gang of liberal media people who are elated with joy to see a great man fall?

Even if all the accusations turn out to be true - a highly unlikely bet - I don't see much changing. I'm still going to listen to Rush when I am able if he is still willing to broadcast, and I expect that his current listeners will continue to listen as well.

When you get down to it, I don't give a hoot about what anybody thinks, I just hate that Rush has to go through this. If I were religious, I would pray for God to give him strength right now.

[technomage]

David Cline was arrested for cocaine trafficking in 1982 in Collier County. He posted bond to get out of jail and then skipped, living as a fugitive in New York and Fort Lauderdale under different names until surrendering in 1989. He was convicted and sentenced to five years in prison.

And this is the maid's husband?

Seems Rush had better hire a security company that does better background checks, don't cha think??

Seems I was in error. Cline is not the husband of the maid. He is one of them running the so-called pharmacy.

[wardaddy]

Well, it's like Bluntpoint said earlier:

Bias clouds perspective....and objectivity I guess I could add.....for any political perspective.

[Mamzelle]

re: It sounded to me like "I'll tell yall what I know when I know what they've got on me". )))

I can't say that I'm not disappointed.

[wardaddy]

good...that makes about 2 or 3 of us so far willing to admit it here.

;>)

[WorkingClassFilth]

"Oh, I think the combatants are far more basic than Marxism vs Democracy."

Well, I'd have to agree that that would be the case in the vast majority of conflicts. Most of the time it boils down to the eternal desire of one group to take from another. Race hatred, harnessed by the left, is another force. And, I suppose, boatloads of latent anger from screwed up people that hate their daddies and the middle-class and, yet, still want a sugar-daddy that will take care of them. Weirder permutations than I can think of right now too.

Lots of energies driving the system, but I think the ones in the driver's seat are of the Marxist mold. World government is the final stop on their itinerary.

[A. Pole]

Addicts have no problem with denying their drug use or drug problem. They are practiced, skillful and professional performers that can lie very convincingly.

I think you are too harsh on Rush. Pain killers can be very addictive and if you have an accident or painfull disease and need medication, you can become addict yourself. So be careful before you condemn Rush.

[A. Pole]

Now the amount that Rush is supposed to have ingested is Ludicrous, I think favre said he was taking something on the order of 5-10 pills a day. The Clines are claiming Rush took upwards of 50. That is just not realistic.

There is a simpler explanation - Rush could try to accumulate the pills for long term usage.

[helper]

Right on, too bad more people don't see it.

[harpseal]

I do not know what he paid her but then again I do not know who to believe in this story.

[I_dmc]

So much of the conflict I see in the world seems to boil down to good vs evil. It makes me think thoughts.

[tubebender]

Cline is the husband of the maid. Basharas (sp) ran a Pharmacy supplying the pills to the Clines...

[LittleJoe]

But the solution is to overturn the existing laws using the mechanisms in place to do so, not to ignore them.

Well, if that were the case, we would still be living with prohibition. That the public refused to obey the law was the reason prohibition was repealed.

And the second is to see that the laws are enforced

C'mon, we're both old enough to know that's a crock. If it weren't for men of consience refusing to enforce bad law we would still be bowing to a king.

Government has grown too big to listen to us. Judges are making law from the bench. It has reached the point that any American can be arrested at any time because there are so many laws that you can't make it through the day without violating a law.

Government has no control over a free man. Government can only control criminals. How long before we are all criminals?

[Cacophonous]

My point is that we have to hold our conservative heroes and icons to the same standards of behavior as we do liberals. If it were revealed that Al Franken had a problem with pills to the point that he was using the black market, blackmailing people, etc., we would want him punished. We had enough of liberals ignoring laws they didn't like.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Thughts are good to think.

At the basic level of good v. evil though, I have a difficult time with branding God as a Republican. Perhaps a more likely notion is that more of the crumbling homage to absolute truths and moral restraint are embodied in the American conservative agenda and, therefore, our particular vehicle of Republicanism is the last gasp of 'good' in the early part of the 21st century.

I hate to think of the state of affairs at the close of the century. Still, this is the task that falls to every generation. So far, bloodshed for our generation has been light. The way I see it, I do what I do and fight for my ideals to prevent evil from becoming fully engaged and proactive. That's when really bad things happen.

In the final analysis though, I'm with you - RAT's are evil.

[I_dmc]

One hopes its the "quiet before the storm". One good reason to keep mum is to build your case for a mega-lawsuit. Wouldn't it be cheerful if the Bush/Ahnold/Rush attacks could be traced to a certain "lady" of high ambition? ;-)

[wardaddy]

I think Bush will weather this fine. I saw Peter King's piece today about the CIA trying to smear Bush to cover their mistakes...nasty and plausible.

Arnold?.....the more they dump on him the better he looks and the more motivated his supporters become. I have never seen such partisan attacks from some media orgs as in this one ...the LA Times should be ashamed.

Rush....the jury is still out....I'm sure reporters are down there digging for the goods at a fury. If it is proven only that he bummed a few pain pills from his maid or that the whole thing is a hoax then he is fine.

Anything much worse than that and he will be in trouble. The leftist media will never let it go unless a catastrophic event supplants it as newsworthy.

[Don Munn]

And the Liberals expect you to hold your icons to a higher standard.

They don't and nobody says a word, execpt us and it don't matter.

Your standard lowered Bill Bennentt, Newt, Bob Livingstone, and what happen to their rat counter parts, Byrd, Clinton, Leahy....NOTHING!