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The coming national ID card
WND ^ | 10-03-03 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 10/02/2003 11:54:37 PM PDT by JustPiper

A series of articles published by WorldNetDaily.com this week have proven, beyond a shadow of doubt, that Americans will soon have to endure more of the kind of statism normally reserved for despotic regimes in the Third World. That outrage will come in the form of a national ID card.

The crux of the articles is about granting driver's licenses to illegal aliens, which – according to one immigration-reform group – is occurring in many more states than previously believed. Though driver's licensing officials in some of those states vehemently deny illegals are beating their systems, several residents of these same states have contacted WND to say otherwise. In some instances, readers say they have actually witnessed the licensing of illegals.

Indeed, says the Federation for American Immigration Reform, some 15 states make it very easy for illegals to obtain driver's licenses, though only one – California – has actually passed legislation making it legal for illegal aliens to apply for and receive driver's licenses (though there is an effort underway there to have the law repealed).

So what, you may ask. What does it matter if illegal aliens get a driver's license? After all, according to immigrant-rights groups and supporting politicians, illegals are here in the U.S. and are driving already. Licensing them may actually make roads safer because the illegal aliens will have to take and pass driver's exams, buy auto insurance and so forth.

Several things are wrong with this "logic," the least of which is whether or not illegals will buy auto insurance (most don't now and experts say they won't after they get a license, either).

First, there is a new federal law on the books that takes effect Jan. 1. Passed in the wake of the 2000 presidential recount circus/debacle, the "Help America Vote Act" sets national election standards, one of which is verifying the identity of voters to make sure they can legally participate in our country's elections. One of the qualifying documents is – you guessed it – a driver's license. Yet, if illegals are being given licenses – legally – what's to stop them from voting? Federal Election Commission officials gave only weak assurances the proper "safeguards" were in place to prevent this, but anyone who is familiar with bureaucracy knows better.

That in and of itself is a major problem. Most illegals come from countries whose system of government is different – read less liberty-prone – than ours. Are Americans ready for more gun control? Warrantless searches and seizures? Fewer private-property rights? These same countries are much more socialist-minded as well; how much larger will the federal budget grow if illegals are allowed to vote themselves more benefits? Are Americans ready to pay the higher tax burdens that will be required to finance this new surge in largess?

Also, Americans who travel abroad say driver's licenses, not passports or other documents, are increasingly being requested by foreign officials to verify identification. If illegal aliens possess a driver's license, then there really is no way to find out that person's legitimate country of origin. How much harder will that make it for U.S. and international authorities to track terrorists who were smuggled into California – or another state – long enough to apply for, and receive, a legitimate driver's license?

"I just took a trip all across the Caribbean and South America and nobody wanted to see a passport ... just my drivers license," a friend told me. "Nobody in Martinique, Barbados or Aruba wanted to see jack. I only needed a driver's license and ship credit card to get on or off."

What's the obvious answer? "Some statist at Homeland Security will come up with a national ID card," my friend says. I think he's right.

It's not like the idea hasn't already come up. Plans to use driver's licenses as de facto national ID cards were first introduced during the Clinton administration. The idea resurfaced during the Bush administration following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The next logical step, of course, will be a national computerized database of the information contained on the de facto national ID cards, and … well, you get the picture.

All because political correctness has made our leaders more afraid of being mislabeled as racists than concerned about defending our nation's sovereign borders. For their cowardice, we the people will have to sacrifice more of our Constitution.

In the end, Americans still won't be safe. And illegal immigration will continue to flourish.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; jondougherty; matricular
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1 posted on 10/02/2003 11:54:37 PM PDT by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper
A national ID card won't be obtainable by a non-citizen? They will just forge them. The intent will by-passed.
2 posted on 10/03/2003 12:02:37 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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4 posted on 10/03/2003 12:04:59 AM PDT by JustPiper (We deserve no less than closed border's after 911!!!)
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To: JustPiper
http://taor.agitator.dynip.com/on_law.htm

It already is an internal passport and it's all a con.
5 posted on 10/03/2003 12:22:53 AM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: ridesthemiles
Why would they forge them? We already are giving drivers licenses away for nothing.
6 posted on 10/03/2003 12:28:26 AM PDT by Fledermaus (I DONATED! HAVE YOU? DONATE NOW OR I'LL HAVE YOU PUT BACK ON THE DO NOT CALL LIST)
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To: agitator
Heavy thoughts!
7 posted on 10/03/2003 12:37:01 AM PDT by JustPiper (We deserve no less than closed border's after 911!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Exactly why illegals shouldn't be given driver's licenses. Legal aliens should be given their own ID to track them better.
8 posted on 10/03/2003 12:52:47 AM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg
So explain to me again how it is the fifty million people signed up for the DO NOT CALL list.

A public list that contains name, address, phone number and email address.

10 posted on 10/03/2003 1:22:20 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg
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11 posted on 10/03/2003 2:12:30 AM PDT by Psalm118 (Isaiah 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee, because he trusteth i)
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LOL...

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12 posted on 10/03/2003 5:59:47 AM PDT by cyborg (X-tra strength industrial grade tinfoil hat for maximum zottage)
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To: JustPiper
Won't happen.

No money for it, the old geezers want their free precription card first.

Besides, our freckless politicians are too busy protecting us from evil telmarketers to worry about something as obvious and politically incorrect as militant Islam.

13 posted on 10/03/2003 6:04:41 AM PDT by joyful1
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To: JustPiper
Here in NJ I am forced to provide insane ID for many things. I lost my Birth Certificate years ago and now have to replace it as it is becoming an part of my life. For 25 years I never needed it. I am asked for many forms of ID. I never faced this before.

Now I can hear it: "If you just have this one card your troubles are over".

14 posted on 10/03/2003 8:02:59 AM PDT by Afronaut (Zombie voters For Liberals)
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To: JustPiper
In Japan every alien must go give their fingerprints and register every year. No exceptions.

The first order of business to deal with this problem is to define the magnitude of the problem. I don't see how anyone could argue with a dispassionate and censuslike photo of just who is peopling this country.

The government demands accountibility and gatekeeping to use in the appropriations process of funding programs. We are overdue in gaining accountibility and knowing the scope of things in this amorphous issue.

15 posted on 10/03/2003 8:10:08 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: bicycle thug
Conservatives face a dilemma. Most oppose a national ID card, yet they want the government to be able to determine whether everyone else, except them, are citizens.

Conservatives are outraged at voter fraud, but don't want to provide proof of citizenship themselves.

16 posted on 10/03/2003 8:17:26 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: JustPiper
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17 posted on 10/03/2003 8:17:45 AM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: Dog Gone
I'm not sure how I feel about this.

I'd probably go for it if it provided absolute guarantees that they'll throw out non-citizens. Also, it would have to have these things:

A: A Shall-Issue national Concealed Handgun License
B: National drivings license
C: Replaces social security cards
D: Highly resistant to forgery
E: Guarantees that it will never be used for any other reasons than ID and the above things.
18 posted on 10/03/2003 8:21:03 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: Ruth A.
Some thoughts on the subject:

I am a legal alien, the fact of the matter is that the BCIS/INS employees don't know whats-what half the time. I had to fill out an AR-11 form (change of address) because I moved 2 streets over from my previous residence. The first time I submitted the form the INS employees did not know what the form was.

As a result there were 700,000 AR-11 forms sitting in boxes at the INS at the beginning of this year, they did not know what to do with the forms.

Most legal aliens have a green-card (wich is PINK not green BTW and it has a magnetized strip on the back). Is the strip there for show? what data is already contained on the strip?

The FBI has my fingerprints on file,and has done a background check with INTERPOL, RCMP & Local Law Enforcement, but they do not share this information with the BCIS/INS, Why?...Now if I have to go to the BCIS/INS I have to be fingerprinted again by the BCIS/INS and they have the FBI do my background check again, HUH !!

My SSN is also only good for where I am working, I cannot use it anywhere else to work.

Soon enough all passports will contain some form of bio-metric data, isn't a passport a national ID anyway? I am required to obtain a bio-metric passport from Canada for 2004/2005.

The real joke of my passport is that the new Bio-metric enhanced passport will be registered with the UN..what the hell is that all about (not aboot !).

19 posted on 10/03/2003 8:27:34 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: MD_Willington_1976
The real joke of my passport is that the new Bio-metric enhanced passport will be registered with the UN..what the hell is that all about (not aboot !).

That's a darn good question.

20 posted on 10/03/2003 8:30:28 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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