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Defending Rush Limbaugh
MSNBC ^ | 10/2/2003 | Allen Barra

Posted on 10/02/2003 6:52:36 PM PDT by shoedog

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To: shoedog
Allen Barra said what I wanted to say. McNabb isn't that good and he alienates opposing fans with his hotdog moves to taunt an opposing team. Case in point, two seasons ago while beating the Bears badly, McNabb carried the ball for a touchdown and then spiked the ball over the goal post.
It was both uncalled for and poor sportsmanship but that's what passes for NFL football today, in addition to too many teams and too many mediocre players. I stopped watching the NFL this year. This effort to paint Rush as a racist is part of the overall media/Democrat effort to destroy the reputation of anyone in the public eye who is CONSERVATIVE. Examples: President Bush, John Ashcroft, Miguel Estrada, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rush Limbaugh. I smell Bill Clinton and Terry McAuliffe behind all of it.
41 posted on 10/02/2003 7:31:37 PM PDT by texas slim
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Rush Limbaugh made the mistake of dragging his political views into the sports arena

I dunno - the media covers both. So how do you compartmentalize your life?

42 posted on 10/02/2003 7:34:04 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: shoedog
Should Rush Limbaugh have resigned from ESPN?* 32785 responses Yes. His comments had no place on a sports show41% No. Everyone has the right to an opinion50% I don't know/care10%
43 posted on 10/02/2003 7:34:28 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("If guns kill people, where are mine hiding the bodies.")
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To: shoedog
This is from Slate??
44 posted on 10/02/2003 7:35:18 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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To: GoOrdnance
I appreciate your analysis. However I do believe McNabb is overated. You are exactly right, he does have a poor recieving corp and not the strongest running game. However, the Eagles Defense has put them where they have been the last few years. Also, you cannot try to tell me Donovan is an accurate passer, that won't fly. McNair is a much better all around quarterback. Also McNair has not haid the greates recieving corp around him either.

McNabb is a great athlete, and personally I like the guy, however his numbers are very average and he has come up very small in big games, of course Gannon also came up very small against Tampa's D.
45 posted on 10/02/2003 7:36:37 PM PDT by shoedog
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
"Rush Limbaugh made the mistake of dragging his political views into the sports arena."

I guess you disagree with the artical because the author seem to say that what he said was true and not political.
46 posted on 10/02/2003 7:36:55 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Where is that poll?
47 posted on 10/02/2003 7:37:12 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: shoedog
That about nails the football side of the issue. The vengence of the white-guilt crowd won't be affected by this however.
48 posted on 10/02/2003 7:37:32 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: agitator

 

 

 

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49 posted on 10/02/2003 7:37:54 PM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: shoedog
Surprising Truthful analysis of what Rush said and the facts that verify it.

Don't ge too caught up in those FACTs in this story. Do you know how many stats are kept for individuals and teams in hte NFL? You can pull stats on 1972 Dolphins team that went undefeated that make them look like the worst team in the league that year. Last year the Eagles set a franchise record for points scored in a season. But how can that be, with the stats that were given in the article? Dig a little deeper before you claim victory. Now what is that saying? Oh yeah - "Lies, damn lies and statistics"

50 posted on 10/02/2003 7:38:11 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: shoedog
To pretend that many of us didn’t want McNabb to be the best quarterback in the NFL because he’s black is absurd.

There are dozens of reasons people want certain players to be the best, for some it may be race, for others it may be the college they attended, for still others it's because they like the guys image. Unless Rush could make a case that more honest assessments of McNabb were silenced because they were intimidated by those who so wanted a black to be the best, he didn't need race to make his point.

More and more, with the developments today, I wonder if Rush wasn't talking about the power of the media to prop up or destroy depending on their emotional or political attachment to their subject.

51 posted on 10/02/2003 7:40:04 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: nhoward14
His comment would be fine on the EIB because that show is his; it's a political show dedicated to Rush' opinions about everything. The ESPN show is a sports show, and mention of race here is full of landmines. Best to shut up about race...no need to bring it up.

The way I see it is that we've been relegated to the kids' table for a long time, and now finally get a chance to sit with the adults and we let off a big fart. (Look--I don't believe the libs are the adults, but I think the analogy holds). Rush should have known better--perhaps he acted out because of the imminent story on the oxycodone.

52 posted on 10/02/2003 7:40:23 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: thoughtomator
Hey, McNabb is better than Testaverde, don't be complainin!

He's better than Aaron Brooks as well (oops, can I say that?).
53 posted on 10/02/2003 7:40:53 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: shoedog
If the other accusations about Rush are true then he was on drugs when he made the McNabb statement and therefore not responsible for his actions according to liberalism. Sorry Dems, you just lost one of these issues.

54 posted on 10/02/2003 7:41:03 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: SengirV
I keep forgetting what a powerhouse offensively the Eagles have been through the years, and oh by the way, how many of those record points were scored by the D and Special Teams???? Also Akers kicked quite a few Field Goals.
55 posted on 10/02/2003 7:41:29 PM PDT by shoedog
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Rush Limbaugh made the mistake of dragging his political views into the sports arena.

Mistake? Can you compartmentalize your life like that? I can't. I am just as distainful of affirmative action-like activities in sports as I am in "real" life.

Your comment made me think of people who only want to be Christian on Sunday. Do you only want to be conservative 9-5, Mon.-Fri.?

If I'm misunderstanding, please explain.

56 posted on 10/02/2003 7:41:52 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Jimmy The Greek's comments were pretty much impromptu. As I recall, he was having supper in a restuarant and was pretty much blindsided by a reporter and camera crew.

His statement could be considered racist, but I don't believe it falls into the category of bigotry. People who knew him said he was crushed by the incident. He even sought counsel with, of all people, Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson in order to regain his reputation.

Rush should have known better.

Do you or anyone else here remember Earl Butts - Sec'y of Agriculture under Reagan? Now what he said was bigoted.
57 posted on 10/02/2003 7:44:32 PM PDT by wingman1
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To: Pharmboy
Best to shut up about race...no need to bring it up.

And this helps how? We should hide from reality? Cede the field of race to the Jacksons and Sharptons of the world? Isn't that what we've been doing?

Dr. Phil would ask, how is that working for you?

58 posted on 10/02/2003 7:44:41 PM PDT by Exigence
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To: Savage Beast
The Propaganda Machine is working overtime

Yep and it's just a warm-up for the presidential campaign. I think the dems will eventually overplay their hand.

59 posted on 10/02/2003 7:47:10 PM PDT by virgil
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To: wingman1
I am not bashing Jimmy the Greek. I just wondered if the comments could be considered equally off the cuff remarks.

Rush should have known that the television audience wasn't his radio audience. And I don't believe he should have resigned so quickly, unless it was ESPN who forced his hand.
60 posted on 10/02/2003 7:48:05 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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