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To: quidnunc
See, this is what I was talking about... some people just don´t know what they are talking about, and yes, I am looking at you.

Schröder did not run anti-American, he ran anti-WAR, BIG difference, since WW2 Germany is much too pacifist in my book. He owes his election to pacifism and the floodings in East Germany which gave him opportunity to shine in crisis management.

I did not come whining to you. I am around here for some time now and wanted to share my thoughts on this. I nowhere called for US help, I said "How can WE have let this happen".
21 posted on 10/02/2003 2:27:32 PM PDT by anotherGerman
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To: anotherGerman
anotherGerman wrote: Schröder did not run anti-American, he ran anti-WAR, BIG difference

Bullbleep!

Opposition to an Iraq intervention was a fig leaf to cover raw anti-Americanism:

The campaign's anti-American tone hit a low point last week when Schroeder's Justice Minister, Herta Daeubler-Gemlin, commented on president bush's foreign policy. She was quoted in a local newspaper as saying: 'Bush wants to divert attention from his domestic problems. It's a classic tactic. It's one that Hitler used." Schroeder stood by her saying he believed her when she said she'd been misquoted. The White House responded angrily. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice said in an interview with the "Financial Times" said "There have clearly been some things said…way beyond the pale." And she added: "An atmosphere has been created in Germany that is in that sense poisoned." Today, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had this to say.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/europe/july-dec02/bkgdgermany_9-23.html

This goes far beyond mere opposition to war.

30 posted on 10/02/2003 2:50:39 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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