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Although this subject has been discussed here in "Freeperville" this is a good read. ENJOY!!
1 posted on 10/02/2003 5:14:20 AM PDT by Fighter@heart
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2 posted on 10/02/2003 5:16:05 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Fighter@heart
Boortz is great. I don't agree with him as much as Rush but that's why I listen to him. But no one can survive a debate with Boortz.
3 posted on 10/02/2003 5:19:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Fighter@heart
The libs are always saying, "We need open and honest dialogue about race in this country." And then when someone gives an honest opinion in the open -- that isn't laced with "white guilt" -- they get crucified.

I hate hypocrites.
4 posted on 10/02/2003 5:21:04 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Fighter@heart
In todays society, the commandment "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor." or Thou shalt not lie has been interpreted to be:

Thou shalt not tell the truth if it might hurt the feelings of someone other than a white male or may point out a weakness or anything other than perfectness in someone who is not a white male.

6 posted on 10/02/2003 5:33:26 AM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: Fighter@heart
Excellent post! Articulate and well thought out.

It now seems there is an all out socialist war [church, flag, patriotism, race, family, etc.] against any and all persons having "non-socialist" ideas.

If I can read this, with any clarity at all, this next 14 months is going to be unimaginable.

8 posted on 10/02/2003 5:39:05 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: Fighter@heart
In my opinion, this entire ESPN episode and Rush's departure from it is being blown way out of proportion. It's only a flippin' football show that is watched by about 2% of the total TV audience. It means nothing. Rush's presense on that dumb-ass football yapping show does absolutely nothing for the conservative cause. For Rush, it was probably a pleasant diversion, like some of us rake leaves on Saturday mornings in the fall. But nothing more than that. It's not worth getting all bent out of shape over.

Of far greater concern is the rumors swirling around Rush about the prescription drugs. This is something that could genuinely ruin the man if the allegations end up having some truth to them (which at this point, I have absolutely no opinion either way). This is what admirers of Rush should be worried about. Not some nonsensical football talking head show that hardly anybody (including many football fans) even watches.

10 posted on 10/02/2003 5:51:56 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (212.8 (-87.2) Homestretch to 200)
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To: Fighter@heart
We need to in unison continue to point out that Dusty Baker, manager of the Chicago Cubs said something demonstrably racist and there was no call to resign.

Baker said that white guys had more trouble with the heat of summer than blacks because blacks had been bred pre-history in equatorial zones. The implication was that white guys perform poorly during day games.

11 posted on 10/02/2003 5:51:56 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Fighter@heart
what they probably are tyring to accomplish
is putting a fear into any media Rush touches
that any advertisers might be boycotted
He attacked a sacred cow...right in their front yard
12 posted on 10/02/2003 5:55:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Fighter@heart
The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.

3. Some sportswriters want to see a black quarterback do well.

Close, Rush did not say "some" he said the 'media' implying more than just 'some'. Rush's comments, to be honest, make the claim that he (Rush) thinks the media has over hyped McNabb. He goes on to say that he thinks it is because this 'media' wants to see a black quarterback suceed. So in fact, Rush is saying that the 'media' stories touting McNabbs skills over the last couple years are not based truly on McNabb's skill but rather because he is black and the 'media' wants him to succeed.

I happen to this Rush is dead wrong on this one. Sports is one of the few places where people are mostly judged on their skill not their color, with some exceptions. Rush's comment implies that he thinks the postive media about McNabb was because he is black, not because he is good or was just over-hyped for reasons other than race. Rush is entitled to his opinion and others are entitled to think it is racist.

15 posted on 10/02/2003 6:04:59 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: Fighter@heart
Actually to the extent that this sucks some of the oxygen out of the "leak" "scandal" I think it's good. How do you think Rush's ratings are going to be today?
17 posted on 10/02/2003 6:10:43 AM PDT by johnb838 (Deconstruct the Left)
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To: Fighter@heart
"I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

Do you need any further clarification of what Limbaugh said? Do I have to break it down for you? OK ... step-by-step:

1. I don't think Donovan McNabb hasn't been a very good quarterback, but he has been praised in the media from the beginning.

2. The National Football League is promoting players and coaches based on other than 100% merit.

3. The 'media' want to see a black quarterback succeed and that is why the media over-hyped McNabb, because he is a black man and they wanted him to succeed.

4. It was the defense, not McNabb who got them there.

That is a more accurate translation. One I think Rush would still stand by. But let's call this what it was. Rush was indicting the 'media' for promoting players based on race not skill. That was his point. Obviously, it is #3 that is the issue. Rush is entitled to this opinion, but he need to back it up. He has basically claimed that the entire 'media' is prejudiced in favor of McNabb and that they have been falsely reporting on his skills because he is black. Rush is the one making this claim. He cannot pussyfoot around and pretend all he was saying was that "black sportswriters want McNabb to succeed" and that he will take that back if people want. Rush should either be a man and actually stand up for and back up what he said.....but he should not weasel his way out. His comment, taken in totality, has only one intrepretation and it is the one most of the world sees.

19 posted on 10/02/2003 6:16:53 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: Fighter@heart
Rush was on ESPN to talk about football, not to harrumph about his political views regarding "liberal" bias in the media. What he said was not racist, but what he did do was allege racism (favoring one race over aonther) on the part of other people. That's fine when he's on the air as a political commentator, but not when he's on the air as a football analyst.

At least, not according to the people who were paying him to be a football analyst.
22 posted on 10/02/2003 7:01:31 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Fighter@heart; mhking
(posting again because the duplicate thread was pulled)

I have amazed myself with how concerned I am with this. I had never realized how much he had influenced me. (for the betteR) I don't see this as a coordinated attack by the "left", but as several things bubbling in the pot for Rush.

If he had a choice, he should not of resigned. Knowing how he is, I feel he didn't have that choice. But it is just as likely he is 'tired'.

The pill thing bothers me, for I think it shows he is under exteme pressure and, if true, has some issues he needs to get straight. But it does not show hypocrasy in his political and social views.

If you apply his way of thinking, in the long run it should make him stronger, but I suspect he may just not see it as his fight anymore. The man has a lot of enemies out there, is getting older, and he has a lot of money in the bank. Golfing requires less stress.

Even if one does not believe in some of his stands on issues, I think he needs to hear from people who support him overall at this time, and I think we need to stand up without him for for him and what we believe.

23 posted on 10/02/2003 7:13:36 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Fighter@heart
This is pretty simple, this case. Rush called the media's racial bias clearly and succinctly, and the media is outraged that their cover is blown.
24 posted on 10/02/2003 7:32:44 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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To: Fighter@heart
Bump for printing later
28 posted on 10/02/2003 12:25:54 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug, Holier - Than - Thou Socialist)
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29 posted on 10/02/2003 5:07:35 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("Start every day off with a smile and get it over with" - W. C. Fields)
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