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To: MattGarrett
I'm sadly disappointed that so many people have taken it upon themselves to attack McClintock so viciously. McClintock is a fine conservative with a great record and does not deserve this abuse. I can understand that people don't think he can beat Arnold due to his money, fame, name recognition and backing by Wilson and other big name Republicans, etc, but this does not mean McClintock should have his name and reputation dragged through the mud. Whatever happens this election, we will still need conservatives like McClintock in California. Wish we had more like him.

Free Republic Founder, Jim Robinson 9/29/03

7 posted on 10/01/2003 2:09:37 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Using Jim's opinion is a cheap debating tactic. I've seen posters do this with other issues such as the drug war. Do Jim's quotes somehow makes their opinion more valid?
12 posted on 10/01/2003 2:13:58 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Not looking forward to "A Day in the Life of Arnold" threads)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I'm sadly disappointed that so many people have taken it upon themselves to attack McClintock so viciously. McClintock is a fine conservative with a great record and does not deserve this abuse. I can understand that people don't think he can beat Arnold due to his money, fame, name recognition and backing by Wilson and other big name Republicans, etc, but this does not mean McClintock should have his name and reputation dragged through the mud. Whatever happens this election, we will still need conservatives like McClintock in California.
Wish we had more like him.
Free Republic Founder, Jim Robinson 9/29/03


THANKS for posting ElkGroveDan, had not seen this.
Thank you JimRobinson



16 posted on 10/01/2003 2:17:11 PM PDT by inPhase
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To: ElkGroveDan
Do you interpret Jim to mean that McClintock should get a "pass" when he lies and breaks promises?

Dan
19 posted on 10/01/2003 2:21:04 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: ElkGroveDan
My guess is that if Jim wants to comment in a thread, he knows how to do it. B'sides that, appeals to authority are not only a fallacious but also a rather childish form of argument.
53 posted on 10/01/2003 2:44:11 PM PDT by per loin
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To: ElkGroveDan
Thank you EGDan!

I am really concerned at this point that CRP politics is wired to support anybody rather than a conservative candidate, and will sell out all the party planks and principles in order to "win."

It is my opinion that if the Republican Party wins by backing a candidate indistinguishable from any given Democrat, we have lost the two party system in this state.

If we can't vote principle, then what is to encourage candidates of principle to remain and develop in this party?

69 posted on 10/01/2003 2:50:54 PM PDT by RhoTheta (Go Tom!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Tom McClintock is EARNING this ridicule and resentment though. He is UNETHICAL and is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
76 posted on 10/01/2003 2:54:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ElkGroveDan; MattGarrett
On the one hand, I don't think Matt's vanity commentary and query, "is [Tom] a man of his word?" constitute any sort of "vicious" attack on McClintock of the sort Jim was decrying. Seems like pretty fair comment to me.

ON the other hand, setting aside the fact that Matt probably should have included "(VANITY)" in the headline, I don't even know whether Tom DID give his word, to Issa or to anyone else, that he (Tom) would not be a spoiler -- i.e., that he would drop out under certain late-in-the-race polling conditions suggesting a possible spoiler scenario.

Issa keeps saying Tom said this, and I'm not suggesting that Issa is LYING, but I don't know what exact words were exchanged between the two men. I just have Issa's post-hoc interpretation of it, namely that Issa feels a little misled. That may be the result of a "broken promise," but my guess is that it's more likely the result of an honest misunderstanding.
77 posted on 10/01/2003 2:54:40 PM PDT by pogo101
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