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To: Snidely Whiplash
complaining of all them damned poor folks coming over from Southern and Eastern Europe and Ireland.

Did they get food stamps, section 8, medical asssistance, home owner assistance, government material written in their language?

I might pay more heed to this line of complaint

Maybe you might pay more heed if you lived next door to the 'new immigrants'. I have seen them destroy neighborhoods that they do not belong in because they didn't work to get there. They are not assimilated and our tax money put them there. Take a look and you'll see houses with doors off of the hinge, dirt for front yards, garbage all over, littering on other people's property, seven or eight loud cars coming and going every minute of the day.

We are losing a neighbor right now due to the two Hmong families on our block.

This is what people do when you give them things they didn't work for and are not ready to assume responsibility for.

To say that the Hmong people are hardworking is stereotyping and racist.

31 posted on 10/01/2003 7:13:55 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Maybe you might pay more heed if you lived next door to the 'new immigrants'. I have seen them destroy neighborhoods that they do not belong in because they didn't work to get there.

[Just so we are clear here - I am talking about legal immigrants, not illegals. Illegal immigrants oughta be bounced right back wherever they came from.]

Now...I guess what you have to ask yourself is this - why are you pissing and moaning on FR, instead of doing something to maybe (gently) push these folks to adjust to our society?

I'd bet you've never spoken to your Asian neighbors, have you? ONE of them must speak at least rudimentary English. Ever try to find out if they want or need some help adjusting? The government sure isn't going to do any more than the absolute minimum to get them squared away.

To say that the Hmong people are hardworking is stereotyping and racist.

I said I've always known them to be hardworking. It was far from a universal statement about the character of an entire people. Lotta Hmong came here back in the 70s and are doing quite nicely now. Also, cavalierly flinging charges of racism around is just moronic. A Biblical injunction about motes and beams comes to mind...

They are not assimilated and our tax money put them there.

What, exactly is "assimilated," anyway? Is it a language issue for you? It's not like first-generation immigrants have historically EVER been overly fluent in English. Would you expect that they become fluent in English and such before they're even admitted?

And those areas that all those earlier European immigrants crowded into - the Chinatowns and Little Italys and Germantowns - I'm sure that those names were applied merely as random conveniences, rather than a way to connote who lived in those areas.

You act as if this is the first time this sort of thing has happened, and I'm telling you it isn't, and it's not likely to persist as a cultural phenomenon. Even those who come from Latin America eventually "assimilate" as far as it goes, learning the language at least enough to be able to function in the broader society.

There are towns here in the Midwest that had German-language newspapers up until the mid-20th century. Are those folks guilty of not assimilating as well? How about the Amish and Mennonites?

Snidely

42 posted on 10/01/2003 8:50:37 AM PDT by Snidely Whiplash
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