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To: Lijahsbubbe
Maybe you might pay more heed if you lived next door to the 'new immigrants'. I have seen them destroy neighborhoods that they do not belong in because they didn't work to get there.

[Just so we are clear here - I am talking about legal immigrants, not illegals. Illegal immigrants oughta be bounced right back wherever they came from.]

Now...I guess what you have to ask yourself is this - why are you pissing and moaning on FR, instead of doing something to maybe (gently) push these folks to adjust to our society?

I'd bet you've never spoken to your Asian neighbors, have you? ONE of them must speak at least rudimentary English. Ever try to find out if they want or need some help adjusting? The government sure isn't going to do any more than the absolute minimum to get them squared away.

To say that the Hmong people are hardworking is stereotyping and racist.

I said I've always known them to be hardworking. It was far from a universal statement about the character of an entire people. Lotta Hmong came here back in the 70s and are doing quite nicely now. Also, cavalierly flinging charges of racism around is just moronic. A Biblical injunction about motes and beams comes to mind...

They are not assimilated and our tax money put them there.

What, exactly is "assimilated," anyway? Is it a language issue for you? It's not like first-generation immigrants have historically EVER been overly fluent in English. Would you expect that they become fluent in English and such before they're even admitted?

And those areas that all those earlier European immigrants crowded into - the Chinatowns and Little Italys and Germantowns - I'm sure that those names were applied merely as random conveniences, rather than a way to connote who lived in those areas.

You act as if this is the first time this sort of thing has happened, and I'm telling you it isn't, and it's not likely to persist as a cultural phenomenon. Even those who come from Latin America eventually "assimilate" as far as it goes, learning the language at least enough to be able to function in the broader society.

There are towns here in the Midwest that had German-language newspapers up until the mid-20th century. Are those folks guilty of not assimilating as well? How about the Amish and Mennonites?

Snidely

42 posted on 10/01/2003 8:50:37 AM PDT by Snidely Whiplash
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To: Snidely Whiplash
I'd bet you've never spoken to your Asian neighbors, have you

Matter of fact, I have. We have given them clothes.

What, exactly is "assimilated," anyway

It means they adjust to this country, not we adjust to them.

Would you expect that they become fluent in English

They're certainly fluent enough to throw F-U-*-K's and other obscenties around loudly.

all those earlier European immigrants crowded into - the Chinatowns and Little Italys and Germantowns - I'm sure that those names were applied merely as random conveniences, rather than a way to connote who lived in those areas.

Now you're getting warm. They lived in that area because taxpayers didn't move them into a home they didn't work for and give them food stamps and welfare.

why are you pissing and moaning on FR, instead of doing something to maybe (gently) push these folks to adjust to our society?

Are you kidding? They stand in large groups in the middle of the street and dare people to drive their car thru. You're living in a dream world.

So you think I should teach them how to be decent neighbors, while I work and they live off of my money? The point you are ignorant of is taxpayers are supporting these immigrants.

75 posted on 10/01/2003 12:21:26 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Snidely Whiplash
It took generations for the Germans to assimilate in the US anc this only occured AFTER the 1920's immigration restriction laws.
Same with the Irish, Italians, Poles.....
114 posted on 10/01/2003 10:34:56 PM PDT by rmlew (Copperheads are traitors)
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