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Payback Time [Wilson/Plame CIA-WH-FBI Saga]
NewsMax ^ | September 30, 2003 | John LeBoutillier

Posted on 09/30/2003 5:59:49 PM PDT by AntiGuv

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To: willieroe
Again. Wilson's wife was not in the witness protection program. She was not a non-person who didn't exist. Wilson did not have deny that he had a wife, nor did she have to have an alias. The problem only arose because someone leaked the fact that this woman was an undercover CIA operative.
61 posted on 09/30/2003 8:05:24 PM PDT by jimmccleod
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To: harpo11
There's a difference between "employee," "agent," "operator," "asset," etc.

If she's an analyst, she's just an employee. The Community is generally mum on all the people who work within, so the CIA's reluctance to comment means very little.

I somehow doubt that the wife of an ambassador would be a covert agent anyway. An Ambassador's wife is high-profile, travels with a security detail and wouldn't be able to do any spooky stuff. The people who do agent work are the ones who tend not to get their pictures taken.

I'm curious as to when she started working for the Company, and if it was a reward for his service to Clinton, etc. Don't think that patronage jobs don't happen - look at Monica Lewinsky.



64 posted on 09/30/2003 8:08:03 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: jimmccleod
Perhaps. Perhaps you're guilty of selective reading.
65 posted on 09/30/2003 8:08:05 PM PDT by willieroe
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To: darknemus
You are so far behind the curve you can't even hear the train coming.
66 posted on 09/30/2003 8:08:39 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: darknemus
"If it bleeds, it leads" is every news agency's motto. Fox wants ratings from everyone, not just pubbies. You are not the typical rat either. You actually are watching Fox News and are posting tidbits referring to this story. Meanwhile, (in the rest of the country) Mom and Pop democrat are watching the Cubs beat the braves. They aren't on FR like you are. Makes me even more suspicious of you.

I would hope, for your sake, that you are prepared for the leaders of your socialist liberal agenda to be taken down. It is far more likely that this is what will happen.

We shall see how long you last here.

67 posted on 09/30/2003 8:10:50 PM PDT by GWfan
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To: Palladin
Shouldn't the NEPOTISIM be investigated too. After all Plame suggested that HER hubby be hired for the job. And just how many 'gov't administrations are there in DC? State, Judicial, CIA, Legislative, Executive, Pentagon, just to name a few. Novak does NOT make clear which one it is. He DOES MAKE CLEAR that it was NOT the White House. Novak assumes that the entier population knows that there are different types of admin in DC.

What we tend to forget because we are "well informed" is that the general pop is not. Civics is no longer taught, thus most don't know how our gov't functions, much less that we have different branches each with their own admins.

68 posted on 09/30/2003 8:14:22 PM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: cake_crumb
This AntiGuv guy hasn't read Novak's denial and acts like he is in the know. Sheeeesh!
69 posted on 09/30/2003 8:17:43 PM PDT by novice2
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To: GailA
And just how many 'gov't administrations are there in DC?

There is only one adminstration in Washington. That is the Bush administration. There are several branches of government. Judicial, Legislative, etc, etc. When Novak said that administration officials told him the story, he meant persons associated with the Bush adminstration. He never said they were not associated with the White House.

70 posted on 09/30/2003 8:21:18 PM PDT by jimmccleod
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To: cake_crumb
"It's Newsmax, so it's probably pretty good." Not necessarily,, when it is LeBoutillier. Of all Newsmax reporters, I like/trust him least.

He frequently goes for the sensational at the expense of impeccable reporting. He is arrogant as any Dem. and is wrong many times, as he is here in the first paragraph. He reports as FACT that two high-level Admin people called at least six reporters. Novak, the original namer of Ms. plame says that isn'tso.
The Wash. Post said it was so and then back-paddled, which it would never do if it was, in fact, so.

All day today, people like Pelosi have been making dire accusations about this leak and the WH, and the Pres., presenting as FACTS all the inuendo and accusations, and speculations. It is just a tempest in a thimble (not big enough for a teacup) trying to evolve into Watergate with media help.

As for Le Bou's other factual missteps, he rehashes the 16 word bit, saying it came AFTER Wilson and the CIA notified the WH not to use this info. Jerk! The 16 words were based on British intelligence, and was so stated. The Brit's are still standing by their words. Wilson is a Dem. operative. Yes, some heads should roll, starting with George Tenet at CIA.

I'm still waiting for someone to VERIFY that this woman is more than a CIA analyst or office worker.

I just took a 800 mg Motrin for pain, but it has helped neither the pain in the butt that this sloppily or not at all researched article gives, nor has it helped the Damdem headache caused by Pelosi
et al.

About the investigation--this outing of a CIA operative was reported in July when it happened, and after CIA looking into it has been given to Justice, routinely, as have 50 to 60 other reports per year of security breaches. ROUTINE, people, routine.

vaudine
71 posted on 09/30/2003 8:22:07 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: AntiGuv
Hey, coward, why didn't you stay around and answer the forum?
"Payback is a bitch" you say


. . . then run home to mama.
72 posted on 09/30/2003 8:23:42 PM PDT by novice2
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To: pierrem15
I say that Wilson outed his wife, as in "Ha, you think I don't know what's going on in Africa? My wife is CIA". He wanted to be taken seriously so badly that he used his wife.
73 posted on 09/30/2003 8:23:42 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: GailA
Nepotism is rife in D.C. It's the world center for "Power Couples". If they're not FedGov, they're Washington media.

It's the most incestuous town in the world.

BTW, I saw a shot of Wilson and the Mrs. all dressed up at a White House gala (must have been the Clinton's last days.)

Not exactly typical behavior of a deep cover operative.

I don't hold out much hope for the Wilson marriage...besides the May-December aspect, he's a big-mouthed jerk and she was stupid enough to marry him.

Another example of that oxymoron, "Government Intelligence".
74 posted on 09/30/2003 8:24:13 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: J_Bravo
I think that John is less than honest in his reporting and I don't take him to be a supporter of this Presidency. Just my opinion.
75 posted on 09/30/2003 8:25:10 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: harpo11
This man served as an United States Ambassador to Iraq. Did he close his eyes to the rape rooms, the torture chambers, the mass murdering committed by Saddam, his spawn, his minions?

Apparently because Wilson doesn't think we should have gone into Iraq and removed Saddam

76 posted on 09/30/2003 8:29:59 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Mo1
Do you know what the deal between Wilson and April Gilespie was in 1990? April gets the blame for not being more forceful with Saddam. Where was Wilson in this?
77 posted on 09/30/2003 8:31:14 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: PLMerite
Y'all can email the Plame/Wilsons right here and ask all those questions:

http://www2.bus.orst.edu/students/P/PLAAK226/The_Plame_Family/Pictures.htm
78 posted on 09/30/2003 8:40:48 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: jimmccleod
What's your take on this article?
79 posted on 09/30/2003 8:47:07 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: dogbyte12
What was the final word on whether or not she told Saddam we had no concern if he went into Kuwait?
80 posted on 09/30/2003 8:47:38 PM PDT by breakem
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