Payback Time [Wilson/Plame CIA-WH-FBI Saga]

NewsMax ^ | September 30, 2003 | John LeBoutillier

[Palladin]

You're an astute observer, willieroe!

[pierrem15]

I agree in the sense that the agency would not have made the recommendation if they didn't believe the law was broken.

But was it a crime in light of the fact that she might not have been working undercover on this particular mission and/or if she or her husband had already blown her cover?

[JOE6PAK]

..."he has called for Rove to be arrested and "frog marched out of the White House in handcuffs."

Just what the hell is a FROG MARCH?

[Palladin]

You make some good points.

This present brouhaha reminds me of the old "SPY VS. SPY"
cartoon in MAD magazine.

[GWfan]

Dream on pal.

[pierrem15]

over in a week

actually, I give it about a month.

But then the dems (or their moles in the bureaucracy) will come back with something new.

I hope the strategy is to let them cry wolf so often and so pathetically that the rank partisanship on this becomes obvious.

[Palladin]

It's that little dance Susan MacDougal did so often on TV when she was in that orange jumpsuit.

[Iowa Granny]

Another one.

[jimmccleod]

His own bio at the Middle east Institute names his wife: if anyone knew she worked for CIA, then she was "outed" by Wilson himself in 2002.

Be real. The problem is not that Wilsons wife exists or has a name, but that someone gave out info about what her job is with the CIA.

Novak denies anyone identified the wife to him

Untrue. Novak admitted in his statement this week that 2 administration officials gave him the info during the process of an interview he was conducting. He only refuted the idea that administration officials "called" him to supply him with the info.

More horses--- for the dem spin machine.

I admit there is spinning going on here and Rush Limbaugh is doing a lot of it by trying to change the meaning of Novaks own words this week.

[Fuzz]

Here's Larry Johnson's bio from the Foxnews website:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41773,00.html

Larry C. Johnson joined Fox News Channel as a contributor in December, 2001.

Mr. Johnson is an owner and founder of BERG Associates, LLC, which specializes in money laundering investigations, financial analysis, and counter terrorism. As one of the principals of BERG, Mr. Johnson has directed or participated in the forensic audits of banks and casinos Latin America, tested procedures and systems for detecting and preventing money laundering, and directed the forensic audit of a multi-million dollar business suspected of money laundering in the Colon Free Zone of Panama.

Mr. Johnson manages and directs BERG Associates investigations of international fraud and product counterfeiting, which has resulted in the confiscation of products worth one million dollars, fines totaling $500,000, and criminal penalties for the offenders. In addition, Mr. Johnson helps design and implement counter terrorism exercises for the US military forces with the counter terrorism mission. He is knowledgeable of conventional and unconventional threat scenarios, including chemical, biological, and nuclear threats.

As a Deputy Director of the State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism, Mr. Johnson managed crisis response operations for terrorist incidents in Lebanon, Asia, Central America, the Caribbean, the Persian Gulf and Europe. He helped organize and direct the US government’s debriefing of U.S. citizens held in Kuwait and Iraq, which provided vital intelligence on Iraqi operations following that country’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

Mr. Johnson’s expertise includes aviation and maritime security. He participated in the investigation of the terrorist bombing of Pan Am 103 and directed crisis management operations that resolved several hijackings. Under Mr. Johnson’s leadership the U.S. airlines and pilots agreed to match the US Government’s two million-dollar reward. Mr. Johnson also supervised the multi-million dollar U.S. Anti-Terrorism Assistance Training Program, which provided training to more than 15,000 security officials from over 70 nations.

From 1985 through September 1989 Mr. Johnson worked for the Central Intelligence Agency. During his distinguished career, he received training in paramilitary operations, worked in the Directorate of Operations, served in the CIA’s Operation’s Center, and established himself as a prolific analyst in the Directorate of Intelligence. In his final year with the CIA he received two Exceptional Performance Awards.

Mr. Johnson routinely analyzes terrorist incidents for TV, radio, and print, including the Jim Lehrer News Hour, CNN, National Public Radio, ABC’s Nightline, NBC, the New York Times, and the BBC. Mr. Johnson has authored several articles for publications, including Security Management magazine, the New York Times, and the Los Angeles Times.

Mr. Johnson received his BS from the University of Missouri in 1976, and his MS in Community Development from the University of Missouri, 1978.

[lawdude]

Number 1 is a proven lie.
Number 2 is pure posturing by the CIA
Number 3 is a lie as admitted by Wilson himself
Number 4 is speculative, at best.
Number 5 is even more speculative, probably wishful thinking.

Number 6 ??? What "anti-Wilson campaign?"
Number 7 is... D'oh
Number 8 is ?? "preliminary reports" by WHOM?
Number 9 is ?? The dems insisted the "Independent Counsel" lsw NOT be renewed. After all, it was their thorn! We all know just how fair Janet Reno was in her investigation.

Number 10 is "From the DNC's lips to your typewriter!"
Number 11 is the first comment I have been able to agree with!
Number 12 is, "OKaaay???"
Number 13 is "When it comes out that it was a Clinton holdover, will you be happy or sad?
Number 14 is "The only 'threat is the probability that dems are taking a very minor story and blowing it waaaay out of proportion, thanks to a willing liberal/communist media."

Number 15 is, REAL LIFE! And the dems know it.

This whole saga is media driven with points supplied by the DNC! The basis for it is lie upon lie. The problem is, only one person will ever know who did it because the only one who knows is Robert Novak...and he ain't never gonna talk, kiddies.

[willieroe]

Be real. The problem is not that Wilsons wife exists or has a name, but that someone gave out info about what her job is with the CIA.

The problem is also Wilson's credibility - See this thread, in which a Seattle Post-Intelligencer editorial from August 10, 2003 notes, "In carefully discussing what he called the hypothetical possibility his wife is a CIA employee, Wilson noted that the use of her maiden name would compromise work done before their marriage five years ago."

[jwalsh07]

I'm serious when I say the RNC needs to look at the possibility of a Primary challenger.

Seriously demented.

[lawdude]

"The CIA would not have referred the case to Justice if Wilson's wife was only an analyst. "

The CIA would if it was marching to the orders of Bill & Hillary. After all, Tenet is their lap dog and they have enough on him to sink him to the bottom of the Ft. Marcy Park pond!

And you can bet on it!

[willieroe]

I'm serious when I say the RNC needs to look at the possibility of a Primary challenger

What if we can't find one - do you have any extra to share on the 'Rat side? :-)

[DarthVader]

Darkenmus is a candidate for ZOT!!!!!!