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Democatic License: How California's Pandering to Illegal Immigrants Affects Us All
The Proposition (Claremont Institute) | 09-2003 | Edward J. Erler and Scott J. Zenter

Posted on 09/30/2003 2:44:29 PM PDT by boris

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1 posted on 09/30/2003 2:44:29 PM PDT by boris
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx
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2 posted on 09/30/2003 2:57:14 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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3 posted on 09/30/2003 3:20:14 PM PDT by HiJinx (The guidon passed, I serve from home...)
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To: HiJinx
Makes it easier to allow illegals vote.
4 posted on 09/30/2003 3:22:57 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Be alert. America needs more lerts.)
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To: SAMWolf
Right. It isn't allowing them to drive that the Democrats really care about. It's picking up up those million illegal votes. Oh they won't be dishonest and vote, you say? Yeh, just like they weren't dishonest and crossed the border illegally.
5 posted on 09/30/2003 3:29:08 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: SAMWolf
SAM, it opens up a whole Pandora's Box of nightmares. It allows them to legally purchase guns...driver's license, utility bill, and no FBI record...bingo, you're golden.

As the article said, the driver's license is a defacto internal passport, the assumption being that citizenship accrues to the bearer thereof.

10 million new 'citizens' overnight cannot be good for the country you and I fought for.
6 posted on 09/30/2003 3:29:10 PM PDT by HiJinx (The guidon passed, I serve from home...)
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To: boris
This is one of the most damning aspects of a Schwarzenegger governorship. I don't think he has his head glued on properly on this issue. Now, is Bustamante going to be any better? I'm not happy about this.
7 posted on 09/30/2003 3:31:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: HiJinx
>>It allows them to legally purchase guns...driver's license, utility bill, and no FBI record...bingo, you're golden.

Here in Texas you don't even need a utility bill. I bought my first gun (12 gauge shotgun) about a month ago, and all I needed was cash, a drivers license, and no FBI record. It may be different for handguns, since due to stupid rules I can't buy one of those until I am 21.
8 posted on 09/30/2003 3:32:52 PM PDT by LonghornFreeper
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To: HiJinx
Yep. Let's face it other than a Socialist Security Card a drivers license is the closet thing we have to a National ID.
9 posted on 09/30/2003 3:33:29 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Be alert. America needs more lerts.)
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To: LonghornFreeper
Hey we're talkin' Texas now...

I thought all a y'all were born with a six-shooter and a lever-action carbine as part of your birthright?

Ok, seriously...the bit about the utility bill, is that most gunstore owners will require a second piece of ID to verify your address. In Texas, unless you live in a city larger than Tyler, most everyone knows you, your family, your family's family...etc.!

(I have family in DeKalb and Tyler!)
10 posted on 09/30/2003 3:48:16 PM PDT by HiJinx (The guidon passed, I serve from home...)
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To: boris
A referendum is now underway to stop the law from going into effect. If petitioners can gather 400,000 signatures it will appear on the March 2004 ballot.

I've got a good feeling the voters of California are going to overturn this pandering, un-American legislation. They know bad law when they see it.

Now if we can only bring some democracy to NY and give citizens the right here to vote on ballot propositions.

11 posted on 09/30/2003 4:48:47 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SAMWolf
Makes it easier to allow illegals vote.

Sadly, it can't get any easier here in California.

12 posted on 09/30/2003 5:38:58 PM PDT by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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Here in Oregon when you get your license they give you a voters application, no questions asked.
13 posted on 09/30/2003 6:20:42 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Be alert. America needs more lerts.)
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To: boris
Before a gala crowd of mostly Hispanics, Davis said that "immigrants deserve a right to drive in California."

Right to drive and a license for self defense makes a lot of sense. NOT

What a shameless, treacherous POS
14 posted on 09/30/2003 7:00:19 PM PDT by neverdem (Say a prayer for New York both for it's lefty statism and the probability the city will be hit again)
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To: boris
Matriculas are easily obtained because Mexico has no centralized system to verify the identity of its own citizens.

But even more than that --- they've already discovered these matricula cards being sold out on the streets. In Mexico, bribery and corruption is so engrained, there are probably few of their consulates who wouldn't sell one to anyone if the mordida was high enough.

15 posted on 09/30/2003 8:42:37 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: boris
California continues its slide into third world status with Davis at the helm. The process of legal citizenship is being destroyed. Why should they apply legally when all they have to do is sneak over the border and receive all the benefits of citizenship? Davis and his buddies in Sacramento even want to subsidize tuition for illegal aliens while the citizens continue to pay for their own.

As long as we keep handing out all the freebies, millions upon millions more will come. It's supposed to be against the law to hire illegal aliens, or to aid and abet illegal immigration, but there is still not a peep heard from George W. Bush or anyone in his administration about any of this. Maybe they're thinking that no one will notice the invasion?

16 posted on 09/30/2003 9:09:45 PM PDT by janetgreen (Attention Mr. President: America is being invaded. WAKE UP!)
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This is one of the most damning aspects of a Schwarzenegger governorship. I don't think he has his head glued on properly on this issue.

Bump.


17 posted on 09/30/2003 9:12:16 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: boris

The real effect of SB60 is the likelihood that the Illegal Alien issue will come to a head in 2004. Democrat and Republican leaders will be stumbling over themselves to off various Amnesties to Illegal Aliens, to the dismay of the rank-and-file of both parties.

There will be anti-Illegal Alien ballot initiatives on the California and Arizona ballots next year, which will win despite the craven opposition of most elected politicians.

Yet the politicians will likely continue their drive to surrender to Illegals.

It'll be up to the citizenry to see to it that they fail.


18 posted on 09/30/2003 9:18:07 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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And well you should. I recognize his shortcomings.
19 posted on 09/30/2003 10:49:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: HiJinx; Pro-Bush; ETERNAL WARMING
Ping!
20 posted on 10/01/2003 1:24:48 AM PDT by JustPiper (We deserve no less than closed border's after 911!!!)
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