[JoeGar]

The killings ... represent 16 percent of the city's 436 slayings ...

This means that an American is more likely to be killed in New York City than in all of Iraq. You don't see that on your nightly news (from New York City).

[newwahoo]

Things aren't really out of hand here yet. I just see a lot of little things that lead me to believe that we're on the long road back to the "Old New York". Despite whatever stats the city provides, my conversations with other New Yorkers also show me that people don't feel as safe as they did a couple of years ago (outside of the whole terorism issue).

And as you well know, there are lots of things you won't be hearing on the news regarding either Iraq or NYC!

[toddst]

This means that an American is more likely to be killed in New York City than in all of Iraq.

Alas it has been so for many years. NYC is a very dangerous place for law-abiding citizens because they are prohibited from protecting themselves from the street scum. No gun permits for the commoners and every criminal knows that to be so.

Concealed carry for average law-abiding citizens would transform the place IMO.