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In July Time Magazine Interview, Joe Wilson Said His Wife Had Nothing To Do With Niger Trip
Time Magazine ^ | Thursday, Jul. 17, 2003 | By MATTHEW COOPER, MASSIMO CALABRESI AND JOHN F. DICKERSON

Posted on 09/30/2003 12:38:37 PM PDT by Pubbie

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To: txlurker; William McKinley; Pubbie
The July 21st Time issue has the article "A Question of Trust"..does that answer everyone's question?

Does it read like the article posted at the top of this thread?

61 posted on 09/30/2003 3:22:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Pubbie
"CIA refers crimes report over about once a week to the Department of Justice whenever there's a leak or any other potential violation of law that they come across."

James Woolsey
Woolsey served from 1993 to 1995 as President Clinton's first CIA director (when the CIA was reporting leaks about once a week to the Justice Department)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/992522/posts

62 posted on 09/30/2003 3:24:42 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Mo1
No, not at all....Starts out "The CIA's Tenet takes the fall for a flawed claim in the SOTU, but has Bush's credibility taken an even greater hit?"
63 posted on 09/30/2003 3:31:22 PM PDT by txlurker
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To: William McKinley
"If it was in either the 14th or 21st edition, then they did not get it from Novak."

If the article is dated July 17, wouldn't it probably be in the 21st edition?


A War on Wilson?
Inside the Bush Administration's feud with the diplomat who poured cold water on the Iraq-uranium connection
By MATTHEW COOPER, MASSIMO CALABRESI AND JOHN F. DICKERSON

Thursday, Jul. 17, 2003

64 posted on 09/30/2003 3:47:27 PM PDT by Maria S (“I know a little bit about how White Houses work.” Hillary Clinton, 8/26/03)
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To: txlurker
No, not at all....Starts out "The CIA's Tenet takes the fall for a flawed claim in the SOTU

No that wouldn't be it .. we are looking for the one about Joe Wilson and his wife

Thank you for you're help;0)

65 posted on 09/30/2003 3:50:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Maria S
It is possible that it was never in the magazine but just a Time.com article.
66 posted on 09/30/2003 3:50:55 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: My2Cents
CIA official who monitors

I am beginning to doubt, she is even an anaylyst.

67 posted on 09/30/2003 3:54:27 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: michigander
WOW ... now the New York Times is involved in this??

Interesting stuff there

68 posted on 09/30/2003 4:10:16 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: William McKinley; Mo1
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69 posted on 09/30/2003 4:10:34 PM PDT by michigander (I can't see, Doh da doh doh doh doh. The doggie wee wee has blinded me and I can't see. Temporarily!)
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To: William McKinley
Check out Post #60 ASAP
70 posted on 09/30/2003 4:10:51 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Pubbie
I'm so used to pseudo-scandals being fabricated by the unAmerican 'Rats that it's hard to pay attention any more. Is there any substance to this one?
71 posted on 09/30/2003 4:15:50 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: ravingnutter
This is driving me crazy....

I know. They focus on the stupidest things, while this bombshell is right under their noses and nobody seems to notice it.

72 posted on 09/30/2003 4:16:37 PM PDT by alnick
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To: michigander; William McKinley; Pubbie
LOL .. Seems Paul Krugman has a fan

http://www.pkarchive.org/
73 posted on 09/30/2003 4:20:03 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
Well, IF Wilson's wife is an UNDERCOVER CIA Operative, then this is bad, however If she isn't then this is an enormous NONStory (I don't think she is undercover).
74 posted on 09/30/2003 4:21:37 PM PDT by Pubbie ("Last time I checked, he doesn't have a vote" - Tom DeLay on Ari Fleischer's demand for Tax-Rebates)
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To: Pubbie
Well, IF Wilson's wife is an UNDERCOVER CIA Operative, then this is bad, however If she isn't then this is an enormous NONStory (I don't think she is undercover).

I thought I've heard that she is an analyst--a desk jockey with no cover. Would I get into trouble if I were to identify George Tenant as a CIA employee?

75 posted on 09/30/2003 4:24:23 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: razorback-bert
Good point. She probably cut out articles from the NY Times.
76 posted on 09/30/2003 4:25:06 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well...there you go again.)
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To: Pubbie
angrily said that his wife had nothing to do with his trip to Africa. "That is bulls__t. That is absolutely not the case," Wilson told TIME. "I met with between six and eight analysts and operators from CIA and elsewhere [before the Feb 2002 trip]. None of the people in that meeting did I know, and they took the decision to send me. This is a smear job." Government officials are not only privately disputing the genesis of Wilson's trip, but publicly contesting what he found.

WHO are the eight analyst he met with who didn't KNOW him and SENT him?? I thought Cheney sent him...</sarcasm.

77 posted on 09/30/2003 4:30:37 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Pubbie
Any public library will have at least a couple of years of back issues of Time.
78 posted on 09/30/2003 4:35:35 PM PDT by alnick
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To: michigander
OK .. here is the Krugman story that the NRO article refers to

http://www.pkarchive.org/column/072203.html

Who's Unpatriotic Now?
SYNOPSIS:

Some nonrevisionist history: On Oct. 8, 2002, Knight Ridder newspapers reported on intelligence officials who "charge that the administration squelches dissenting views, and that intelligence analysts are under intense pressure to produce reports supporting the White House's argument that Saddam poses such an immediate threat to the United States that pre-emptive military action is necessary." One official accused the administration of pressuring analysts to "cook the intelligence books"; none of the dozen other officials the reporters spoke to disagreed.

The skepticism of these officials has been vindicated. So have the concerns expressed before the war by military professionals like Gen. Eric Shinseki, the Army chief of staff, about the resources required for postwar occupation. But as the bad news comes in, those who promoted this war have responded with a concerted effort to smear the messengers.

Issues of principle aside, the invasion of a country that hadn't attacked us and didn't pose an imminent threat has seriously weakened our military position. Of the Army's 33 combat brigades, 16 are in Iraq; this leaves us ill prepared to cope with genuine threats. Moreover, military experts say that with almost two-thirds of its brigades deployed overseas, mainly in Iraq, the Army's readiness is eroding: normal doctrine calls for only one brigade in three to be deployed abroad, while the other two retrain and refit.

And the war will have devastating effects on future recruiting by the reserves. A widely circulated photo from Iraq shows a sign in the windshield of a military truck that reads, "One weekend a month, my ass."

To top it all off, our insistence on launching a war without U.N. approval has deprived us of useful allies. George Bush claims to have a "huge coalition," but only 7 percent of the coalition soldiers in Iraq are non-American — and administration pleas for more help are sounding increasingly plaintive.

How serious is the strain on our military? The Brookings Institution military analyst Michael O'Hanlon, who describes our volunteer military as "one of the best military institutions in human history," warns that "the Bush administration will risk destroying that accomplishment if they keep on the current path."

But instead of explaining what happened to the Al Qaeda link and the nuclear program, in the last few days a series of hawkish pundits have accused those who ask such questions of aiding the enemy. Here's Frank Gaffney Jr. in The National Post: "Somewhere, probably in Iraq, Saddam Hussein is gloating. He can only be gratified by the feeding frenzy of recriminations, second-guessing and political power plays. . . . Signs of declining popular appreciation of the legitimacy and necessity of the efforts of America's armed forces will erode their morale. Similarly, the enemy will be encouraged."

Well, if we're going to talk about aiding the enemy: By cooking intelligence to promote a war that wasn't urgent, the administration has squandered our military strength. This provides a lot of aid and comfort to Osama bin Laden — who really did attack America — and Kim Jong Il — who really is building nukes.

And while we're on the subject of patriotism, let's talk about the affair of Joseph Wilson's wife. Mr. Wilson is the former ambassador who was sent to Niger by the C.I.A. to investigate reports of attempted Iraqi uranium purchases and who recently went public with his findings. Since then administration allies have sought to discredit him — it's unpleasant stuff. But here's the kicker: both the columnist Robert Novak and Time magazine say that administration officials told them that they believed that Mr. Wilson had been chosen through the influence of his wife, whom they identified as a C.I.A. operative.

Think about that: if their characterization of Mr. Wilson's wife is true (he refuses to confirm or deny it), Bush administration officials have exposed the identity of a covert operative. That happens to be a criminal act; it's also definitely unpatriotic.

So why would they do such a thing? Partly, perhaps, to punish Mr. Wilson, but also to send a message.

And that should alarm us. We've just seen how politicized, cooked intelligence can damage our national interest. Yet the Wilson affair suggests that the administration intends to continue pressuring analysts to tell it what it wants to hear.


Originally published in The New York Times, 7.22.03
79 posted on 09/30/2003 4:43:13 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: William McKinley; Pubbie
Check this out

http://www.time-planner.com/planner/about_time/bios/senior_editorial_staff/matthew_cooper.html
MATTHEW COOPER
A New Jersey native, Cooper is a 1984 graduate of Columbia College in New York City and lives in Washington D.C. with his wife, Mandy Grunwald


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/89724p-81585c.html
Mandy Grunwald
Hillary Clinton adviser Mandy Grunwald said there was really no way around it.

80 posted on 09/30/2003 4:51:06 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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