Perspective: Die-hard Confederates should be reconstructed

St. Augustine Record ^ | 09/27/2003 | Peter Guinta

[Non-Sequitur]

Damn NS...bad day?

Now that you mention it, yeah it was. Don't know what came over me. Sorry about that.

[stainlessbanner]

Funny how they come and go....

[TomServo]

Especially when y'all hang on to it so tightly.

Do tell...

[Non-Sequitur]

Lincoln stood ready to assist those who wanted to go, and perhaps thought that life in Africa would be preferable to life as free men and women in racist America. But you have to admit that that's a far cry from Jesup's claim that Lincoln wanted to send all free blacks back to Africa.

[billbears]

And the link to this data is found where? Or should I assume it came off an AOL discussion group?

[wardaddy]

Is that Steve Rubell with the platforms?

[wardaddy]

I'm trying to keep it lite. I haven't been on one of these in awhile.

Besides, you read more than I admittedly so I have to run Googling too much to keep up.

Regards.

[billbears]

I think "just" is stretching it a bit.

I think not. By their very action of seceding from the union instead of attacking the capitol of said nation and attempting to overthrow the government, it is plain to see the South just wanted to leave. But a certain President couldn't do without his tax money now could he?

I get the impression that many Confederate veterans were not nearly as bitter against the Union as many Freepers currently are.

I beg to differ. The difference at that time is that while a tragedy at the loss of 600,000+ souls had occurred, for the years immediately following and I would say up until the early 20th century, these men were respected. However after 50+ years of dragging their names through the mud as some sort of evil men, I would hope they would at least want to defend their honor and set the record straight. As long as these continuous acts of hatred come against the brave soldiers of the South, and as long as our heritage is made the laughing stock in every form of media unjustly while the praise of anti-Semites, thugs, and criminals continues, there will be anger

[wardaddy]

Didn't they kill GM cars for a time about 72 or 73? The death of the muscle car.

[billbears]

1978 Olds Regency

LOL, at least I wouldn't tell anyone if I was working on it. That's like saying I worked on my 1981 Mustang in my spare time (and yes I owned one many years ago and yes it was an absolute POS)

[GOPcapitalist]

I would question the legitimacy of Southern seccession because a large part of the population was not allowed suffrage.

If you question the legitimacy of secession on suffrage grounds then you must also question the legitimacy of Lincoln's election, and all presidents before him, on the exact same grounds. Women couldn't vote in that election, be they from the north or south. Most northern states also had laws that prohibited free blacks from voting and some even prevented them from taking up residence within their borders. So in effect the entire northern electorate consisted of white males just like the southern electorate.

[TomServo]

Is that Steve Rubell with the platforms?

Danged if it doesn't look like him. ;-)

[Paul C. Jesup]

Non-sequitur, that is a lot of backtracking you're doing.

Thank you for the help Wardaddy and Stainlessbanner.

[yhwhsman]

Thanks for the links, I'm reading through the one to 'The War for States Rights' site now. Very good stuff.

A damnYankee ;)

[jmc813]

The Constitution doesn't recognize the right to secede whenever a state feels its right to enslave its citizens is being abridged.

Lemme guess. Public school student?

[jmc813]

Do you think that this nation did not have a right to secede from England?

In my opinion, there are a hell of a lot of FReepers who would have remained loyal to the crown. Consider that only a third of the colonialists even supported rebellion in the first place.

[jmc813]

This FR crowd amazes me at times.

DU is around the corner to the left.

[wardaddy]

There is some truth in what you say, I'd agree.

[Lion in Winter]

Gen. Sherman was an ancestor of mine and family tradition says he liked Lee and understood his loyalty to States Rights. That being said, he wanted the Union preserved and acted to do so.

No, I just do not think he held as much grudge against Southerners, white and black who fought the Union, as do you , sir/madam as the case may be.

[Lion in Winter]

Correct and some Southerners are actually descended from Yankees/Union troops. Amazing, huh? Is this a GREAT COUNTRY or what?