White House 'warned over Iraq claim'(Was the Novak story shopped around?)

BBC ^ | July9,2003

[mewzilla]

Thanks for posting this. Gee, wonder who the CIA source was....

[mewzilla]

Wanna see a really nutty link about this? Click here and do a keyword search on Wilson. An excerpt (which I include because I wonder if Wilson is putting out more salacious stuff than we've been hearing):

Ambassador Wilson identified him as Karl Roverer, with the umlaut over the o.

According to reliable sources, as well as our own Al Martin Raw.com investigation, Karl Rove is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who was also a partner and senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurb FCroAG. They built Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany.

So Karl Rove has been identified as the leaker responsible for the deaths of more than 70 CIA assets overseas (See previous story Will the Real Chemical Ali Please Stand Up? The Curious Case of Ambassador Joseph Wilson)

When Ambassador Wilson was asked how he knew it was Rove, he had documents in his possession identifying Rove as the leaker from a secret investigation of the State department's Internal Security Unit. It was a from a small clique, four Clinton holdovers in that department of the State Department that were sympathetic to what had happened to Wilson.

[mewzilla]

When Ambassador Wilson was asked how he knew it was Rove, he had documents in his possession identifying Rove as the leaker from a secret investigation of the State department's Internal Security Unit.

[Phsstpok]

Just don't limit your speculation to Former KGBies, The French, Germans, Saudis, Iranians and others have everything to gain if they can electronically lynch President Bush.

That was in the back of my mind as I wrote KGB. This could also be a scenario put together by a hollywierd FOB who thinks he knows the playbook.

Soros is an interesting possibility. He hates President Bush and tried to crash our $ with the Euro before the Iraqi war started.

This is a player that scares me, much the way Richard Mellon Scaife scares the left. He reminds me of Armand Hammer, who was a KGB agent of influence, taking his marching orders from the old Soviet Kremlin bosses. Who does Soro's associate with?

[jbstrick]

"When Ambassador Wilson was asked how he knew it was Rove, he had documents in his possession identifying Rove as the leaker from a secret investigation of the State department's Internal Security Unit."

This is interesting. Rush mentioned "state" at the end of his show yesterday.

[SpinyNorman]

Is there any reason to discount the possiblility the Wilson himself phoned in this story? I mean, he opposed the war (and likely Bush), and is a Clintonista. Certainly enough reason for speculation..........

Wilson should be forced to present a complete list of every person he spoke to in Niger and what they said.

[Grampa Dave]

These attacks on President Bush are well coordinated and like this one set on their back burner until they felt the need to release it.

This takes money and organization to do this. If we ever get to follow the Opecker money and the money from France, Germany, Russia and ?, we will be stunned.

Soros is a very dangerous man. He hates America and spends his money to weaken America and to push his agenda. Comparing him to Hammer is a good comparison. He has been bed with the Russian Thugs in control of Russia for years.

[Calpernia]

Ping to 82

[ravingnutter]

Check out this little gem:

An unsigned CIA memo on Oct. 5 advised that "the CIA had reservations about the British reporting" on Iraq's alleged attempts in Niger, Hadley [No.2 guy on Bush's National Security team] said. A second memo, sent on Oct. 6, elaborated on the CIA's doubts, describing "some weakness in the evidence," such as the fact that Iraq already had a large stock of uranium and probably wouldn't need more, Hadley said.

Source

Saddam didn't have to purchase it, because according to the CIA, he already had enough. That is way more damning than the Niger claim that he sought uranium.

[Calpernia]

How reliable is Al Martin? From searches, seems to be the source of the Karl Roverer information. Al Martin is also selling a book which is linked to the same site.

[Criminal Number 18F]

...Or the pro-Saddam BBC, in trouble for its sexed-up "Alastair Campbell sexed-up the report" story, was frantically spinning...

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[hobbes1]

9. My theory now. The White House welcomes this investigation to prove Wilson and his wife are the problem here. They were being nothing but political in doing this. Wilson didn't count on his wife being exposed for the fraud that she probably is.

Close. Here's the rest. 10 to 1 that Novaks source is someone at State, who told him specifically, that Wilsons wife was the one liased the trip with him.

Wilson's Bio made her name a matter of Public Record, in the form that Novak Published it.

No information was leaked, realistically by anyone....

Look at it this way....An very partisan guy with an agenda writes a NYTOpEd, 6 months after the speech.

Novak obviously knows who the guy is etc, and asks himself, How in the Hell did HE get sent over to Niger? And that was the question he asked.

As Cliff May pointed out, it was fairly common knowledge among insiders that Wifey worked at Langely, so whoever Novak asked, probably answered the question in an offhand manner.......

The Rest is a matter of published record.

[Stultis]

Actually July 9th was the date Joseph Wilson penned his op ed in the NY times, criticizing the W.H. on Uranium story. This BBC story is just a piggy back of the Op ed.

Yes, but the article sources a CIA official who claimed (as it now seems, incorrectly) that Wilson's report had been pushed up to the Whitehouse. This is the aspect of the report that warrants its reairing. One can't help but wonder if the CIA source was Wilson's wife.

[mrsmith]

I strongly suspect Mrs. Wilson was the CIA official who shopped the story to the BBC.

I assume she faces hard time for her petulence.

[Shermy]

Bump

[XJarhead]

Why the bump? This was a dumb story when first posted, and its a dumb story now. The criticism of relying on a forged memo isn't valid because that's not what we relied upon.

[Shermy]

The bump is about identification of the "CIA Official".

Who was she? or he.

[petitfour]

If it were she (Ms. Plame), then I suspect she'll be in trouble if it is found out that she was the "official" responsible. However, how can she be an "official" if she is merely an analyst?