Can I buy one of these silenced carbines in North Carolina? I want to take out a few deer that are eating our floral and vegetable gardens.
My current horsepower weapons would bother the neighbors and violate the "covenants" in our private neighborhood.
We've got plenty of the "locals" who'd take away the venison.
I will say this - if I'm hunting people I want as much lead in the pipe as I can stuff. People sometimes shoot back.
The lowly .22 caliber long rifle round is becoming a favorite among snipers. Professional assassins (usually thugs working for organized crime) have long favored using .22 caliber (5.56mm) pistols for their work. While not a powerful round, if you shoot someone up close with a .22 caliber pistol several things are noted.
The original 1973 movie version of Day of the Jackal (remade as The Jackal, with Bruce Willis) had a very professional assassin using a specially made single shot 22 rifle. He hand drilled the bullets and filled them with mercury and then capped it with a putty to hold the mercury in place.
1- The victim is dead if you shoot him in the head, which is what pros usually aim for (as these guys like to say, "two in the head and you know he's dead.")
He practiced with a watermelon as a target and regular 22 bullets first. He'd hit it dead on and get a nice neat hole. Then he switched to the mercury loads and poof - no more watermelon.
Interesting movie, but it was most interesting to me for the portrayal of stuff like this. The guy playing the assassin (Edward Fox) was a cold blooded SOB who didn't look it. That's what's really frightening. Remember Wednesday Adam's line from the first Adams Family movie about her apparently not wearing a Halloween costume? "I'm going as a serial killer. They look like everyone else."
2- There is hardly any sound if you use a silencer, and not much even if you don't.
In the book and first movie his target was De Gaulle at ceremonies in Paris. The silenced gun was so effective that he was able to miss once or twice and no one noticed it.
3-A 22 caliber pistol is small, even with a silencer. That makes it easier to conceal, and easier to dispose of.
The gun broke down into pieces that fit into the aluminum tubes of crutches. The butt plate was obviously one of the pads on the top of the crutches. He folded one leg up (rather painfully) to make it look like he was an amputee and used that ruse to get past the guards to a vantage point overlooking the square.
I never though the same about "little" 22s since then. Someone else pointed out to me once that a 22 is bigger around than an ice pick and you wouldn't want that being introduced into your body, even without much relative speed.
Of course, for years and years one of the few rifles that the Soviets let civilians keep were .22LR target rifles, for Olympic style shooting sports such as winter Biathlon. You use what you have, and a well tuned .22LR target rifle by definition makes a decent sniper rifle.
The lowly .22 caliber long rifle round is becoming a favorite among snipers. Professional assassins (usually thugs working for organized crime) have long favored using .22 caliber (5.56mm) pistols for their work. While not a powerful round, if you shoot someone up close with a .22 caliber pistol several things are noted.
Thugs working for the mob aren't usually good enough to put a placed shot where it needs to go with a .22 which is through an eyeball. MOSSAD TRAINS FOR THIS, and so do a lot of other organizations, but not the mob. ALSO when was the last time you saw a hitter using a 5.56mm round in a handgun? That's the .223 Remington round, folks...what is used in the M-16! Somebody not familiar with guns, nomenclature, and ballistics wrote this article...which is another reason to discount the entire thing.
1- The victim is dead if you shoot him in the head, whish is what pros usually aim for (as these guys like to say, "two in the head and you know he's dead.")
Ooooooh I LIKE that little turn of the phrase...I might use it as my tagline! But two in the head...HAS to mean two through the eyes with a .22 or even two into the cranial vault (the forehead) with a bigger caliber like a 9mm subsonic.
2- There is hardly any sound if you use a silencer, and not much even if you don't.
Hey a .22LR will still crack the sound barrier and produce some noise. But a little .22 short is really quiet, but that brings back the issue of shot placement, and skill.
3-A 22 caliber pistol is small, even with a silencer. That makes it easier to conceal, and easier to dispose of.
Maybe, but any silenced pistol that is not factory made is going to be a BEAR to aim effectively because there will not be a decent sight radius to take advantage of the legthened barrel. In fact there might not even be a sight picture to speak of because (again assuming a "homemade hushpuppy") the "can" tends to be a larger diameter than the original weapon's specs. Something manufactured by Gem-Tech for a specific gun and registered etc is a different story!
Then some of the snipers started aiming for the upper back, neck, shoulders and such and ended up killing the Pali's. For some reason, either the politico's or IDF command stopped it.
This is one of the sites where there is info on the IDF using 10/22 rifles. I'll see if I can find the other.
Mike
BRNO makes a little bolt action which often shoots like a house on fire. I have owned three. Two were Egyptian and the other had Czech markings, (actually the Egyptian ones also had Czech markings in addition to the Arabic writing) The Egyptians eventually began producing it locally and it is available at really cheap prices although not as finely made as the Czech ones.
One of mine would shoot consistent one hole groups at roughly 25 yards. The others were nearly as good.
Some of the old Remington and Winchester bolt action .22's also shoot great. My Brother has an old Remington 513 scoremaster which originally was my Fathers. Daddy used to do trick shooting with it. One thing would be to put a nail in a tree and get back about 20 feet and drive it in. This was with open sights.
I don't even think a scope is necessary for the type shooting mentioned in this article. A good receiver sight is easy to hit with at .22 ranges.
The really cheap Marlin model 60 automatics almost always outshoot the more expensive Ruger 10/22's, unless you customize the Ruger with target barrels etc.
I always learn a few things on these gun discussions.
