[fqued]

you wrote: "Proving yet again that California no longer has a Republican Party, just some guerrillas holding a few outposts"

Incorrect. The Republican party is largely, but not totally, composed of three overlapping but distinct groups of conservatives:

Jeffersonian Conservatives - those who follow Jefferson's dictum that "that government is best which governs least"

Economic Conservatives - those who believe in fiscal accountability, free-market type economics, etc.

Moral/Social Conservatives - those who believe that morals are important to have a stable society: family is important, no homosexual marriage, etc. etc.

Obviously, these overlap, but it is clear that a person can emphasize one or two, and even largely disagree with one while strenuously supporting one or two.

That is why there is such an argument over Arnold--he is an economic conservative, but not much of a moral/social conservative. He, is, however, within the Republican party because of that economic conservative stance.

[pubmom]

I think you have me confused with another poster, I wrote that I loved being an observer on these threads to Hillary's Lovely Legs.

[jmc813]

That is why there is such an argument over Arnold--he is an economic conservative, but not much of a moral/social conservative.

He's nowhere near being a Jeffer5sonian conservative either.

[BlackElk]

Arnold is a social issue terrorist. Likewise Wilson and Buffett. If you don't think so, ask the next baby shredded at Gloria Allred's hubby's string of abortion mills or the next one petrified to become an earring or the next one encased in glass as a paperweight or the next one rendered for cosmetics.

Arnold is his own cure. By stressing money, money, money, Arnold offers zero, zip, nada to the Latinos who will soon be your voting majority in Gollyvornia. Their voting majority coupled with the rampaging anti-Indian and anti-Mexican racism of the Muffies and Skippers down at the polo club will guarantee soon enough that Gollyvornia will be permanently safe from the utterly immoral rich and brainless and the amoral rich and spineless.

Arnold has said that people need the government to get everything for them. That is neither Jeffersonian nor economic conservatism. He also said that 95% of the public needs to be told what to do. Ditto. Please stop the pretense that Arnold is either a Jeffersonian conservative or an economic one. You are whistling past the graveyard of crushed California "GOP" dreams. Few people crossing that border in the dead of night want their sons marrying Bruce, their daughters marrying Bertha or their grandchildren slaughtered.

Whatever you do, keep the arguments going since it will be resolved in 8 days and the more that people are furious the better.

When you violate economic conservatism, Muffy and Skipper may have to rearrage their investments and trust funds. When you violate moral/social conservatism, innocent little people die very nasty deaths in large numbers. You may find that moral burden acceptable. I don't and I won't.