[JohnGalt]

"The status quo and/or Isolation only delays our inevitable demise."

Is that a direct quote from Woodrow Wilson?

Guess I just believe in old fashioned conservative ideas like a well armed citizenry and a decentralized government as the best defense.

[PigRigger]

Isolation hasn't worked in the past, has even less of a chance in the future. Either we attempt to implement a solution (under our own terms) understanding the costs involved or just accept the possible outcome of doing little or nothing.

How many had to die in WWI or WWII before it became crystal clear as to to what we were up against. This is WWIII whether you believe it or not.

Cutting and running from Iraq (or the Middle East for that matter), at this point, serves no purpose and will only make things far worse down the road. IMHO.