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French intellectuals ask Pope to remove gluttony from list of 7 Deadly Sins
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Posted on 09/29/2003 8:33:19 AM PDT by yankeedame

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To: yankeedame
They argue that the French word for the sin - gourmandise - has changed its meaning over the years and is now used to denote a gourmet, someone who truly appreciates good food and wine, rather than a glutton.

They argue that the French word for the sin - gourmandise - has changed its meaning over the years and is now used to denote an avarice, someone who truly lusts for good food and wine, rather than a glutton.
21 posted on 09/29/2003 8:51:47 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: yankeedame
Likewise the French word for Lying means diplomacy, Treachery means flexibility.....
22 posted on 09/29/2003 8:51:53 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: yankeedame
Why doesn't this surprise me?I wonder which of"The Seven Deadly Sins"is the next "Target"of these Morally Relative,Socialist Back-Biters???
23 posted on 09/29/2003 8:51:53 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: yankeedame
"To be a gourmand is one of life's great pleasures. Gourmands don't just appreciate fine food and good wine, but they share it - and thus double the pleasure," Mr Bocuse smiles.

One bon-bon for Bocuse, two bon-bons for me - hey, just doubling my pleasure.

24 posted on 09/29/2003 8:52:20 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: yankeedame
I heard Bill Clinton petitioned the Pope to remove the sin of lust. He said that's what got him through a stressful presidency, and therefore, is a virtue.
25 posted on 09/29/2003 8:55:37 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Bikers4Bush
I don't think its a matter of changing the Bible; its a matter of updating the translations.

Words shift in meaning:

A decoy is not a fake duck, but a pond.
A borough is not a city (or part of one), but a hill.
A Bureau is not an office, but a desk.
Old English doesn't exist; that's Old Saxon. (Oft We hwaet ne)
Calculus is not a type of math; its something on your teeth.
A University is not a college, but a corporation.

And finally,
A Frenchman is not a person of Frankish descent, but a cheese-eating surrender-monkey.
26 posted on 09/29/2003 8:59:01 AM PDT by jae471
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
France has a "language police" to attempt to preserve the purity of the french language. I believe you can be fined for using words like "e-mail".

French is what killed eurodisney. It would have been more ecconomically viable as a english dominant park.
27 posted on 09/29/2003 9:02:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: goodnesswins
Could replace it with French Arrogance (or is that redundant?)
28 posted on 09/29/2003 9:29:57 AM PDT by 50sDad ("There are FOUR LIGHTS! FOUR LIGHTS!")
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"French intellectuals ask Pope to remove gluttony from list of 7 Deadly Sins"


....... French Intellectuals???
29 posted on 09/29/2003 10:03:10 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (I'm not into working out. My philosophy: No pain, no pain.)
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I thought that a gourmand was distinguished from a gourmet precisely because s/he is a glutton : A person who overindulges in food but with little discrimination or taste. A gourmet indulges in the finest wines and foods carefully chosen ; a gourmand pigs out on slop-junk food, fast food, badly prepared food, etc. I thought that wads the understood meaning of the two terms, which are NOT synonymous at all.
30 posted on 09/29/2003 10:20:45 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: Graybeard58
French intellectuals???

Definitely an oxymoron in my book - that was what I thought as soon as I saw the title of this article!


31 posted on 09/29/2003 10:44:17 AM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: StarCMC
Nice photo of the official French SWAT team, practicing their swatting movements.
32 posted on 09/29/2003 10:50:11 AM PDT by per loin
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To: yankeedame
OK it's official. Being French is a deadly sin.
33 posted on 09/29/2003 11:47:53 AM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: yankeedame
Is that a deadly sin, or a venial sin? Makes a difference.
34 posted on 09/29/2003 11:49:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: per loin
French Military Forces in Training! LOL!
35 posted on 09/29/2003 12:37:42 PM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
My pleasure, two weeks ago the Oregon Ducks massacred the Michigan Wolverines. They must have been too gluttonous after this feat because Washington Cougars dined on Duck like gluttons themselves and set a new record pointwise for a loss at Autzen Stadium.

If there is a moral in it concerning excess and success and the sin involved in it it must be that you can lead a liberal party oriented university to a grand victory but they always will find a way not to stay there. ;-)

36 posted on 09/29/2003 12:57:12 PM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: RightWhale
"Deadly sin" is not the same as "mortal sin." In fact, these are more aptly called the "seven capital sins," IMHO.
37 posted on 09/29/2003 1:04:09 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: kaylar
You are right. But consider the fact that there is now a cheese called gourmandise. I doubt the promoters of this cheese would like people to think of themselves as gluttons when they buy it. I think the meaning has suffered confusion with that of "gourmet" and has indeed changed.

It's sort of the opposite of what happens to euphemisms: they lose their positive connotations after a while and a new euphemism has to be invented; the word "gourmand" has lost its negative connotations for many people.

38 posted on 09/29/2003 1:08:59 PM PDT by firebrand
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