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Bush administration has no plans to block offshore outsourcing
COMPUTERWORLD ^
| SEPTEMBER 25, 2003
| Patrick Thibodeau
Posted on 09/29/2003 8:05:12 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: Lazamataz
I was joking. Of course it isn't a good idea but it isn't a good idea for anyone. Ask Japan what happens to an export-driven economy when currency inflation and global economic downturns make it harder to export.
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To: Question_Assumptions
I was joking.Okay. I am so used to being savaged by the rose-colored-glasses JOB LOSSES ARE GOOD crowd, that I cannot tell the players without a scorecard any more.
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posted on
09/29/2003 4:01:08 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
To: Lazamataz
I simply cannot express enough reasons why this is a horrible idea. What's your solution? International companies like IBM can move as much as they want to their Indian subsidiary.
Other companies could simply move offshore, if protectionist measures were instituted.
I don't know what the answer is, but tariffs and protectionism certainly aren't the solution.
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posted on
09/29/2003 4:09:45 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
To: Lazamataz
If you want to put me down on your scorecard, you can put me down as "undecided". I think both sides have some good points to make and currently think that the solution lies somewhere between full-blown protectionism and unfettered free trade.
To: sinkspur
International companies A company is not a nation, not a person. It IS an entity OF THE STATE. It exists only by means of a charter from a government.
There are NO International Companies.
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posted on
09/29/2003 4:13:54 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: Lazamataz
Hire them to do what????! Cut the grass at the corporate headquarters?
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posted on
09/29/2003 4:15:09 PM PDT
by
B Knotts
(<== Just Another 'Right-Wing Crazy')
To: bvw
There are NO International Companies. Of course there are. Companies can be "chartered" in many countries. IBM has subsidiaries all over the world, as you know. And, in the age of the internet, moving work over wires is an easy thing to do.
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posted on
09/29/2003 4:22:52 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
To: sinkspur
There are thug companies and whimp countries, that's true -- I agree with you. Most any company what calls itself "An International Company" is a thug, outlaw company -- a rebel against it's charter. And any Nation what does not reign it in, and establish dominance over it is a whimp nation.
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posted on
09/29/2003 4:28:49 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: afz400
Headline should read "Bush Administration Only Plans to Help Foreigners, Not American Citizens." That's the Unholy Truth About this Administration be it about Immigration or Trade. American Citizens have been reduced to Second Class Citizens in their own country.
Whatever Foreigners here or overseas, want or demand, they get from Bush. Either Bush remembers whose interests he is supposed to represent quick or he faces a needlessly close election again next year with a good possibility of defeat.
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posted on
09/29/2003 4:29:01 PM PDT
by
WRhine
To: bvw
Most any company what calls itself "An International Company" is a thug, outlaw company -- a rebel against it's charter. And any Nation what does not reign it in, and establish dominance over it is a whimp nation. These are galactically stupid statements.
You're not in business, are you?
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posted on
09/29/2003 4:32:12 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
To: sinkspur
They are true statements.
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posted on
09/29/2003 5:15:35 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: Lazamataz
That follows. If you are more against his policies than most, but still are loyal to him, that does in fact make you a higher-level BushBot. Happily so. I'm just not so naive as you to think that there's anyone else out there right now willing to do what it takes to save our country and world from one of the most serious ideological threats it has ever faced. I'm not so naive as you as to think that a Bush loss wouldn't mean total disaster and more 9/11s (as a Bush, Sr. loss meant the first 9/11).
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posted on
09/29/2003 7:30:49 PM PDT
by
Texas_Dawg
(Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
To: sinkspur
You're not in business, are you? I think you're question gets to the root of 99% of many FReepers serious problems with radical anti-capitalism.
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posted on
09/29/2003 7:32:22 PM PDT
by
Texas_Dawg
(Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
To: harpseal
[ He said the offshore trend could also affect national defense. "One morning we will wake up 10 years from now and we will not have the skills needed to support the infrastructure of this country," ]
To: Orangedog
This Coburn scumbag is firmly in bed with the Indian government and the Indian business community. He does nothing, not creating one effing job, but somehow has the answers to compete.
To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Cacophonous; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; bwteim; ...
"The answer to economic challenges is growth and innovation," said Chris Israel, a deputy assistant secretary at the U.S. Department of Commerce, speaking at an Information Technology Association of America (ITAA) panel on IT services outsourcing in New York. He cited the administration's support for increased investment in research and development, education and expanded trade authority for the president as part of its efforts to improve growth. "Education", in what? More "expanded trade authority for the president"? "Improve growth", what growth?
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posted on
09/29/2003 10:53:20 PM PDT
by
A. Pole
("Is 87 billion dollars a great deal of money? Yes. Can our country afford it?" [Secretary Rumsfeld])
To: Lazamataz
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posted on
09/29/2003 11:06:42 PM PDT
by
A. Pole
("Is 87 billion dollars a great deal of money? Yes. Can our country afford it?" [Secretary Rumsfeld])
To: sinkspur
What's your solution? International companies like IBM can move as much as they want to their Indian subsidiary. Simple - foreign sales tax on imported goods and services to compensate for difference in wages or cost of living. On the other end, tax credit for hiring Americans.
But if IBM want to sell goods/services on Chinese or Indian markets this is their business.
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posted on
09/29/2003 11:11:48 PM PDT
by
A. Pole
("Is 87 billion dollars a great deal of money? Yes. Can our country afford it?" [Secretary Rumsfeld])
To: 11th_VA
I can order 50,000 widgets from the company in a nearby state, or I can order them from a country far away. The price of the widgets from the company in the next state are increased by all the regulations and tax burdens that our various levels of government place on that company. The widgets from the foreign country are not burdened with any tariffs because that would violate the religious sensitivities of those who worship the phrase "Free Trade". In short, "Free Trade" is just another name for "Foreign Aid".
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posted on
09/29/2003 11:14:24 PM PDT
by
per loin
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