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Pat Buchanan: "Iraq, Tet, George W., and LBJ"
WND.com ^ | 09-29-2003 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

Posted on 09/29/2003 7:14:59 AM PDT by Theodore R.

Iraq & Tet, George W. & LBJ

Posted: September 29, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

"Things perceived as real are real in their consequences."

So it has been wisely written, and repeated so often it has become a cliche.

The Tet Offensive of 1968 was a desperate roll of the dice by the Viet Cong. It ended in their disastrous defeat. Some 50,000 of its critical cadre were killed, and all the gains of Tet were rolled back by the Americans in three weeks.

But America, which had been hearing only triumphal news of U.S. victories, was stunned by the enemy's capture of Hue and the massacre of 3,000 of its leaders, and by Viet Cong sappers trading fire with Marines on the grounds of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon. And the American media portrayed Tet as a communist triumph.

"If we've lost Walter Cronkite, we've lost the country," LBJ is reputed to have said after Tet, when the CBS anchor declared the war unwinnable. After Tet, the establishment that had marched us into Vietnam broke and joined the antiwar movement, just as soon as Richard Nixon finished taking his oath of office.

George W. Bush is in a situation today similar to that faced by Lyndon Johnson at the time of Tet.

While U.S. casualties in Iraq, five dead a week, do not approach the 150 we lost every week, for seven years, in Vietnam, the home front does call to mind 1968 and even the early Nixon years.

The behavior of Senate Democrats today, savaging the same president they gave a blank check for war last October, may be repellent. But it reflects a cold assessment that President Bush is vulnerable on Iraq, that the postwar mess is erasing in the public's mind the brilliance of our victory, and that his calls to unity and a suspension of politics-as-usual in debating the War on Terror may be safely ignored.

Consider the reaction to Sen. Kennedy's brutal charge that the war was nothing but a "fraud," concocted in Texas, to advance the interests of the GOP. If true, this would be an impeachable offense.

But when the president retorted that the Kennedy accusation was "uncivil," Senate Democrats rallied to Kennedy. Said Sen. Joe Biden, ranking Democrat on Foreign Relations, the Bush administration's "leading members believed we would find an oil-rich functioning country, that we'd be met by cheering crowds, that all we had to do was sweep out the top Baathist layers, implant our favorite exiles, and watch democracy take root as the bulk of our troops returned home by Christmas."

Biden has provided a succinct but accurate description of the neocon party line, prior to the war. What he failed to say is that he, as well as Sens. Kerry, Lieberman, Edwards, Daschle and Clinton, as well as Rep. Gephardt, swallowed that line, or refused to challenge that Utopian vision before transferring to the president their constitutional power to decide on war or peace.

Kennedy's rhetoric was over the top. But, at least, he – and Rep. Kucinich and Gov. Dean – stood up against attacks on their patriotism to oppose the war before, not after, its fruits had turned rancid.

Which brings us back around to President Bush. Whether we are making headway in winning the hearts and minds or the Iraqi people, or whether the Iraqis want us out of their country and support those fighting to throw us out, the perception here in our own country is that Iraq is a mess.

Also clear is that the American people are coming to conclude that we ought to cut our losses, get our troops out and turn it over to the Iraqis, or to the United Nations, as early as the transfer can be arranged.

If Bush intends to fight this war to victory, he had best begin to prepare the American people for the long, hard road ahead. This he has not done. Indeed, every indication is that he, and even Secretary Rumsfeld, have no intention of sending in more U.S. troops, but are looking for the next exit ramp out of Baghdad.

Yet they should know it is not only opportunistic ex-hawks in the Democratic Party who hope to secure advantage out of any debacle of a U.S. retreat. The French, Germans, U.N. and anti-Americans all over the world are slavering over the possibility of a humiliating retreat of the American Empire.

One wonders: Does President Bush realize that by listening to the siren's call of the neocons he has put his presidency in peril? Does he recognize now that they fed him a warmed-over policy they had cooked up long before 9-11, and had even tried to feed Clinton, who had the good sense to reject it?


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: biden; bush; clinton; cronkite; democrats; emk; hue; iraq; johnedwards; lbj; lieberman; neoconservatives; nixon; perception; reality; saigon; tet; vietcong; vietnam
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To: DoorGunner
Apparently Mr. Buchanan has a faulty, or selective, memory.

Perhaps he was referring to the war in Iraq and not the generic, perpetual war on terrorism.

Too bad Mr. Buchanan failed to do a "Google News" search, he would have discovered that the administration is getting ready to send 15,000 more troops to Iraq.

A mobilization for troop rotation is not adding more troops.

anti-Americans all over the world are slavering over the possibility of a humiliating retreat of the American Empire.

Just as you seem to be, Mr. Buchanan. Go, Pat, Go...Please.

Sounds as though he is concerned about what the present neocon nitwittery is doing to this country. How is that "anti-American"?

42 posted on 09/29/2003 10:57:14 AM PDT by eskimo
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To: Theodore R.
Mostly what we have seen on the postings about today's Buchanan column are personal attacks and little refutation of evidence and facts. Aren't the personal attacks forbidden on this forum? Some have been especially vicious.

If you are applying for the position of Buchanan hand-maiden, all those positions here are filled. But you shouldn't worry about Pat, he has thick skin. He has to, given his record in popular elections.

44 posted on 09/29/2003 11:07:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I don't think you answered the question but continued the rudeness, "rudeboy."
45 posted on 09/29/2003 11:27:40 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
I'm sorry, but after the Fulani fiasco, I cannot take anything Pat writes seriously. The only question in my mind is whether he is merely a pale-isolationist commie-symp, or a full-blown National Socialist.
46 posted on 09/29/2003 11:37:33 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I go with National Socialist. His economics most closely resemble those of the Reich.....
47 posted on 09/29/2003 11:42:58 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Buddy Rydell from "Anger Management" is my new role model)
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To: Theodore R.
I don't think you answered the question but continued the rudeness, "rudeboy."

If one willingly sacrifices truth to maintain an adopted political perspective, certainly civility can go as well.

48 posted on 09/29/2003 11:43:08 AM PDT by eskimo
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To: eskimo
Pat deep throat buchanan ... no friend of conservatives !
49 posted on 09/29/2003 11:45:50 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: JohnGalt
That is double the amount this dumbass has and an even more than that possessed by the moronic Bush critics.
50 posted on 09/29/2003 11:50:58 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Wow, what a clever response.

Devoid of wit and irony, but complete with a "Beavis and Butthead" reference.

I agree, Yonif's threads are filled with moronic Bush critics who think the United States suffers natural disasters when Israel is slighted.
51 posted on 09/29/2003 11:56:50 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: f.Christian
Pat deep throat buchanan ... no friend of conservatives !

Wasn't that long ago Buchannan was asked to develop the Republican Party platform. If you mean he is no friend of the present neocon nitwittery that now permeates that organization, then I agree.

52 posted on 09/29/2003 11:58:39 AM PDT by eskimo
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To: Theodore R.
There was never an "listening of the neocons siren call" in the first place that is simply a straw man the RATmedia has created. Nor was there ever any claim that this would be simple and easy though, in fact, in many of the cities Americans WERE greeted by cheering crowds of Iraqis and even now Iraqis are glad we are there and do not want us to hand it off to the UN.

Bush's decisions were made on the basis of dealing with the enemies of America. It is always risky to implement policies attacking the nation's enemies since the RATmedia will inevitably attack any who would make such an attempt.

Buchanan has not a single clue about foreign policy. He is useless except to those hoping to undermine the conservative trend in our country. His utter disregard of the danger posed by Saddam is not new but was fully illustrated by his response to the first action against Saddam.

That he is willing to join the RATmedia critics in the lie that this is a "quagmire" makes him more loathsome than Dean or Kerry. At least they don't pretend to be conservatives.
53 posted on 09/29/2003 12:27:04 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: DoorGunner
No he doesn't have a selective or defective memory, he is just another lyin' POS.
54 posted on 09/29/2003 12:28:47 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: ex-snook
B.S. as if you or any of the RATmedia critics would know what an "exit" plan was.

There is a plan and always has been and it is working very well. Our losses, put in any real context of understanding (totally absent in any critic), are trivial.

For a war this has been incredibly low in casualities. Have we ever had a War with so few?
55 posted on 09/29/2003 12:33:37 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: eskimo
Does #33 have an English translation you might share with us?
56 posted on 09/29/2003 12:37:50 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: JohnGalt
Beavis and Butthead are certainly as with it as Surrender Patsy. In fact, more so.

And they are much less dangerous since no they do not pass themselves off as experts in foreign policy.
57 posted on 09/29/2003 12:42:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Does #33 have an English translation you might share with us?

With which words are you having a problem?

Perhaps you are disturbed by the prospect of having to maintain a political perspective at the cost of truth.

58 posted on 09/29/2003 1:28:01 PM PDT by eskimo
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To: eskimo

Pat was a speech writer for Nixon ... an insider !


True to form --- traitor !
59 posted on 09/29/2003 2:25:58 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); hchutch; Chancellor Palpatine
Perhaps if we'd invaded Israel instead, Pat would be on the Administration's side.

Ouch. I felt that slam way the heck over here!

Feel the love, BABY!

60 posted on 09/29/2003 2:27:46 PM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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