Pentium V will launch with 64-bit Windows Elements

The Micro Inquirer ^ | Friday 26 September 2003 | Paul Dutton

[anymouse]

DETAILS HAVE EMERGED of the future design of Intel’s Tejas/Pentium V processor, and of how the chip firm will present it to the world. The chip will sample internally at Intel in January 2004 and will take between four to six months to get to market. The Pentium 6 will follow a very similar schedule.

The Pentium V is likely to fly along at between 5GHz to 7GHz, have 2MB plus of level two cache, be built on a 90 nanometer process, and have a stackable design.

The processor we believe, sits in the LGA 775 pin socket, and above it is a very thin heatsink. But, according to sources close to the firm’s plans, another permeable heatsink can sit between this and another microprocessor module, giving a stackable design.

The final design of this arrangement is not set in stone.

According to this source, and the details have not been confirmed, a module sitting on top could provide 64-bit extensions.

And the source claimed, Microsoft is ready to launch a version of Windows called Elements with 64-bit extensions.

The idea seems to be that people can buy a 32-bit module, and then add in the 64-bit processor.

There are three samples of an arrangement of the Pentium V here in Taiwan this week, with a very thin processor and lots of wires and patches stuck on it, just to show proof of concept.

The Pentium V could have a front side bus speed of as much as 4000MHz, the source claimed, although this may be reserved for the next chip along, the Nehalem.

[anymouse]

It looks like the odd numbered Pentiums are going to continue to be kludges of not ready for prime time technology.

[Luke Skyfreeper]

The Pentium V is likely to fly along at between 5GHz to 7GHz, have 2MB plus of level two cache, be built on a 90 nanometer process, and have a stackable design.

This is some serious computing.

Surf's up, dude!

[Centurion2000]

So this is what ... the 10-86 processor ? I really like it when they had a standard generational processor nomenclature.

[CodeMonkey]

Something tells me these things will run so hot that in areas where heating fuel is too expensive that these will be marketted as "the poor man's central heating system"

[Madcelt]

the bus speed is the part I'm having a "little problem" with. Most data is "bottle necked by the bus. I mean how have they over come that "problem"?

[Praxeologue]

standard generational processor nomenclature

It was all fine until the marketing department was faced with the prospect of calling the next generation the "Sexium".

So we have Pentiums forever, like diamonds.

At least it will be consistent, though boring.

[corkoman]

Great - soon I will be able to show my powerpoint presentations REALLY fast.

[1stFreedom]

>>heatsink can sit between this and another microprocessor module, giving a stackable design.

Boud damn time! I drew concepts of stackable CPU's about 10 years ago. It's a no brainer that's long overdue.

[1stFreedom]

Nah. Windoze 2004 will come out with clunky, albeit 64bit, code. 7ghz will run like a 1ghz machine today. Don't think Intel and Windows aren't in bed together. They need each other to get you to buy new products.

[Petronski]

An unnamed source announcing a version of windows with 64bit extensions? I believe the chip will be along, but it will only resemble this description by coincidence, and the Microsoft product will be vaporware for at least a year.

[ikka]

AMD Opterons shipping soon; 64 bit Linux and Solaris already ready to install on them.

The AMDs have a dedicated chip which handles memory, etc. and UNLIKE the Intel design, when you have 2 CPUs each CPU has its own dedicated memory path. On the Intel design, 2 CPUs shared the memory path, which can slow things down. Competition is wonderful, isn't it?

[JoJo Gunn]

What is Winduhs "Extensions" anyway? Is it another OS that you'll have to depend on yesterdays fry cooks to enable like XP?

[Gringo1]

I use the southern edition of windows. It is called "winders" and is a 64-bit application....well, I broke the jewel case into 64 bits trying to get it open.

[JoJo Gunn]

You got a jewel case with it? Must have been a bootleg.

[Bogey78O]

It was the special "Corporate Edition" complete with paper label.

[D-fendr]

Crystal Ball Question: Will 64-bit processors (AMD IBM-PowerPC) and Unix/GUI on the desktop (Linux & OS X) be the tipping point that bumps Wintel off the top of the heap?

[Petronski]

Considering that 64-bit Linux distros can be, or already have been, converted to full 64-bit support by setting a switch to "bit=64" and recompiling, I'd say yes.

[polemikos]

three samples of an arrangement of the Pentium V ...with a very thin processor and lots of wires and patches stuck on it, just to show proof of concept.

I had no idea $10 billion in advanced R&D buys so much these days.

[sixmil]

What is Winduhs "Extensions" anyway? Is it another OS that you'll have to depend on yesterdays fry cooks to enable like XP?

The 64 bit architecture AMD is going with has the 32-bit instruction set along with a 64 bit instruction set. Really no different than the current chips which still do 16 bit intructions. The instruction set has merely been extended, and in order to take advantage of the extra bits, the operating system and every other piece of software will have to be 'extended' as well to start using those extra bits. The nice thing is that you will still be able to run 32-bit software if you choose. MS was smart to go with AMD and force Intel into this backwards compatible archtecture. Should be interesting to see what happens to Intel's 64-bit server chips.

[Protagoras]

Off topic question. I need a software type freeper to tell me why my Explorer browser crashes when using FreeRepublic. On two different pcs. Mozilla browser works fine on Freerepublic.

My apologies if you are busy with something else.