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Chip Design outsourcing appears inevitable, EEs told
EE Times ^ | September 25, 2003 | Ron Wilson

Posted on 09/28/2003 10:34:52 AM PDT by nwrep

 

Design outsourcing appears inevitable, EEs told
By Ron Wilson, EE Times
Sep 24, 2003 (12:51 PM)
URL: http://www.eedesign.com/story/OEG20030924S0032

SAN JOSE, Calif. — A panel session at the Custom Integrated Circuits Conference here Tuesday (Sept. 23) debated the implications for U.S. design engineers of IC design outsourcing.

Panelists offered free-market platitudes, candid warnings, reassuring economic generalizations and some incisive observations that may help individual designers find a foothold on what promises to be a slippery slope for the profession in the coming years.

Rakesh Kumar, president of operations-outsourcing venture TCX Inc. (Poway, Calif.) said the U.S. has a long history of outsourcing its key industries, including the steel and automotive businesses. He noted that the electronics industry has followed suit, outsourcing the vast majority of packaging, assembly and test.

"Every industry has done this," Kumar said. "The only difference is at what point the outsourcing curve turns over — at 20 percent, 50 percent or 100 percent of the U.S. capacity." The question is not whether the U.S. will outsource chip design, but whether it will retain some design capability or send out everything, Kumar said.

Kumar posed three questions for the panel: Is chip design outsourcing inevitable? What role will it leave for the US? and What can an individual engineer do about it?

Ann Lee Saxenian, professor of political science at the University of California Berkeley and an author on the subject of economic globalization, documented a substantial flight of the electronics industry from the U.S. She said the U.S. share of the global semiconductor market would drop to 30 percent by 2010, while the Asia-Pacific share would rise to 35 percent and Japan's declined to 20 percent.

In contrast to the overall figures, she noted, 40 percent of all fabless semiconductor revenue flowed into Silicon Valley companies in 2002.

Saxenian described the redistribution of the industry not as outsourcing but as a new global division of labor. In this new order, a once monolithic industry is disaggregating, with individual tasks migrating to locations that can perform them most productively.

Seen in this light, she said, the U.S. would likely retain dominance in IC architectural design, in investment into the semiconductor industry and in design of chip manufacturing equipment and EDA tools.

Ed Ross, president of TSMC USA, charted the competitive landscape in the Chinese, Taiwan and U.S. semiconductor markets. Contrary to most U.S. executives, Ross said Taiwan and China have collectively become a hotbed of design activity. "There are about 350 design houses in Taiwan today, and 500 in mainland China," he said. "Many of these are small, but not all of them. And some are very sophisticated."

Right mix

China in particular had the right mix of advantages to prosper rapidly, he added. "The industry receives heavy government investment in China," Ross said, "and benefits from a very strong local market. But on the minus side, China currently suffers a critical lack of experienced managers, and their continued lack of effective legal protection for intellectual property could become a serious limitation."

On balance, Ross said, China would mature as a design community more rapidly than Taiwan "for one simple reason. They are importing a lot of managers from Taiwan who have already been through the experience." If there is a dark cloud looming over the Chinese industry, Ross said, it is that the huge fab building campaign could lead to global overcapacity by 2005 or 2006.

Werner Goertz, vice president at outsourcing megastore Wipro Technologies (Bangalore, India,) added a different perspective. On a macroeconomic scale, Goertz said design outsourcing was a nonissue. He showed data indicating that the total number of jobs projected to leave the U.S. from outsourcing by 2005 — about 3 million — would be only slightly larger than the number of jobs lost through normal operations in the U.S. in the boom year of 1997.

Further, Goertz said productivity increases from outsourcing enriched U.S.-based companies that outsourced design work. Hence, in a trickle-down view of engineering economics, the job loss benefited the U.S. engineers.

Geortz counseled engineers to effectively run for high ground, or move their careers away from basic design and into architectural design or design management — tasks least likely to be outsourced.

Behrooz Abdi, a vice president heavily involved in mixed-signal design at Motorola, said outsourcing is not just about lower salaries. He said the underlying problems were that productivity growth had outpaced demand, and that companies had lost their differentiation. This has forced faster time to market and lower development costs as a substitute for successful new products.

Abdi agreed that the best path for individual engineers and for companies was to innovate at the systems level rather than trying to differentiate themselves on the basis of chip or circuit design.

Gloomier view

Brian Fitzgerald, chief executive of the small design services house ChipWrights (Boston) was pessimistic.

"I think design outsourcing is necessary to a small company in order to compete," Fitzgerald said, "but in the long term I think it is bad for the country." Fitzgerald said he is continually approached by offshore design shops offering to work "three to five times cheaper than we can do it here.'' The more outsourcing, the more global competition is lowering engineering salaries and career opportunities in the U.S.

"One of my engineers comes to me and says he has to have a 10 percent raise. I know he's good, but I also know I could get maybe five times more work done for the same money I'm paying him now. So what am I going to do?" Fitzgerlad asked. ''The more we cut away at the incentives for people in the U.S. to take up engineering careers, the more we undermine out ability to innovate."

The panel's consensus was that IC design outsourcing is inevitable, and probably irreversible. The U.S. will be left with product specification for the domestic market, architectural design and investment from venture capital firms. All individual engineers can do in the face of a flood of outsourced design work is to flee to the relative safety of system architecture, or target highly individual analog or RF design talents.

They can also cling to the hope that the water stops rising, panlists said.

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To: hunter112
and the tens of thousands of engineers in the US making middle class salaries whose jobs are gone, I guess they should all retrain to be chefs.
21 posted on 09/28/2003 11:34:06 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dan Evans
so your answer is that salaries for american engineers must fall to 1/10th their current level, because that is what the chinese earn. is that it? that's going to solve it? what american is going to send their kid for a 5 year college education to earn $15-20K per year?
22 posted on 09/28/2003 11:35:54 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
"and the tens of thousands of engineers in the US making middle class salaries whose jobs are gone, I guess they should all retrain to be chefs."

Maybe they could all get shows on the Food channel. Think positive!

/sarcasm
23 posted on 09/28/2003 11:37:11 AM PDT by JohnSmithee
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To: JohnSmithee
they will have the industry, period. there will certainly be new advances in the chip industry, but none of them will take place here once the industry is gone. just like consumer electronics, did that industry come back to the USA when new product advancements took place? of course not, once its gone, its gone, because there will be no new investment in it in the US.
24 posted on 09/28/2003 11:37:48 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: steplock
Sorry to rain on your parade but the loss of American jobs to foreign workers is mostly due to their cheaper salaries. Unless the USD falls in value relative to other currencies there's not much that can be done about it.
25 posted on 09/28/2003 11:43:35 AM PDT by JohnSmithee
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To: oceanview
I taught and expect my kids to FIGHT for their rights, their country and their families.

NOT for scraps.
26 posted on 09/28/2003 11:45:11 AM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: oceanview

so your answer is that salaries for american engineers must fall to 1/10th their current level, because that is what the chinese earn. is that it? that's going to solve it? what american is going to send their kid for a 5 year college education to earn $15-20K per year? .

The answer is in not trading or competing with China and other evil regimes. In the long run this is suicide. It's like the Ford Motor Company building manufacturing plants in Nazi Germany.

27 posted on 09/28/2003 11:46:26 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: steplock
they can do that, in other fields.
28 posted on 09/28/2003 11:53:07 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: JohnSmithee
Yes, there are things that can be done about it........like tariffs, tax incentives to US corporations to retain jobs in-country, etc. Many things. Howver, is the political will there to do these things? No. We've seen too many industries decimated or outright destroyed when some shop in a Third World s**thole opens up and offers to do the same work for 2 cents on the dollar. Before long, we won't have much of anything resembling a middle class.......and these corporations will marvel that there are fewer and fewer Americans able to buy their products.
29 posted on 09/28/2003 12:09:43 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: JohnSmithee
Engineering has been in decline in the US because manufacturing has declined. Reasons are:

1) An excess population of lawyers, environmentalists and bureaucrats suing, harassing and regulating manufacturers into oblivion.
2) A lack of workers who have sufficient skills because of out lousy primary education system.
3) A Clinton administration that did everything it could to open up US markets to manufacturers in foreign countries that do not deserve out patronage.

These things can be reversed.

30 posted on 09/28/2003 12:11:39 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: oceanview
and the tens of thousands of engineers in the US making middle class salaries whose jobs are gone, I guess they should all retrain to be chefs.

Thanks for missing the point of my analogy. I'll make it crystal clear:

Engineers should get their butts out of their cubicles, and develop personalities, so they can adequately explain to non-techie people how to use the technology that gets developed. Yes, this means that they will be selling things rather than just tinkering around a lab bench coming up with crap that people either don't need, or can't understand.

Clear enough, now?

31 posted on 09/28/2003 12:32:01 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: hunter112
that might employ 1/10th the current field, if they get into "marketing". in the meantime, china will take the industry. ICs are not Nike sneakers.
32 posted on 09/28/2003 12:42:43 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
any freepers with college bound children should read this carefully: steer your children out of this field and other related fields, they are history in the USA. the entire semiconductor and software industry will be gone in 10 years, and very little of other tech will survive.

I disagree. Technology fields will be the economic survivors, although perhaps more in biological sciences than semiconductors and information technology. Your children should definitely learn Chinese.

33 posted on 09/28/2003 12:52:28 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore; oceanview
I disagree. Technology fields will be the economic survivors, although perhaps more in biological sciences than semiconductors and information technology. Your children should definitely learn Chinese.

Keep in mind that ten years ago we were telling everyone our kids should learn web design and Japanese. The future is exceedingly hard to predict, and the course of history can change on a dime. (9/11 was the most blatant example in the lifetime of most of us reading this today, but there are plenty of more subtle examples out there.)

34 posted on 09/28/2003 12:57:16 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: nwrep
I fear that the new world order is coming, and it will be built with America on her knees. I pray to God that I won't be alive to see it...

Technology jobs are all that we have left other than the service industry. Once tech is gone we are finished.

Read the book, The Creature From Jeykl Island if you want your eyes to be opened.

35 posted on 09/28/2003 1:01:19 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: nwrep
First, they came for the farmers, and I paid no attention. Next, they came for the unionworkers, and I rejoiced. Then, the came for the stateworkers ,and I cheered. Now, they come for me....
36 posted on 09/28/2003 1:17:37 PM PDT by ghostrider
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To: Timesink
Learning Japanese is probably still not a bad idea. However, the foreign language teachers of most American high schools, who are specialists in Western European languages, should be immediately dismissed and replaced by teachers of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Russian, Hindi, and other languages.

Most speakers of Western European languages also speak English better than most high school students could ever hope to speak their languages. Therefore, having our student (yes, my children too) learn Spanish or French is a useless distraction.

37 posted on 09/28/2003 1:28:41 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Dan Evans
1) An excess population of lawyers, environmentalists and bureaucrats suing, harassing and regulating manufacturers into oblivion.

This can be reversed? Does that mean we no longer have a concern for standards and we live and work in a 3rd world country? If we have standards then that is still a great expense over the wonderous technology of slave labor and sweatshops even if we have been conservative in maintaining those standards.

2) A lack of workers who have sufficient skills because of out lousy primary education system.

Considering the amount of money that goes into public education it is a terrible failure. It is by far one of the top problems in this country.


38 posted on 09/28/2003 1:39:07 PM PDT by PuNcH
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To: blam
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39 posted on 09/28/2003 1:52:55 PM PDT by null and void
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To: JohnSmithee
"Sorry to rain on your parade but the loss of American jobs to foreign workers is mostly due to their cheaper salaries. Unless the USD falls in value relative to other currencies there's not much that can be done about it."

That is the fact, but what would happen in the short term if we revalued our currency at a realistic level versus the others? All those foreigners who are holding US government debt would suddenly find their holdings grossly devalued and what would be the final result of that?

40 posted on 09/28/2003 1:57:53 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Mercy on a pore boy lemme have a dollar bill!)
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