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Blackpowder, bowling balls and sewer pipe! (Fire in the hole!!!)
One Fine September Morning... ^

Posted on 09/27/2003 8:39:41 PM PDT by mhking

Ah, serendipity. Being in the right place at the right time.
As it happened, this fine and sunny September Sunday morning found me and a few others at the local gun range, sighting in- or trying to- some rifles. Some were cooperating, some weren't. A normal outing to the range, really...

Until this fellow pulls up and starts unloading a big 'ol hunk o' pipe.

Pipe? Bowling balls?

I thought he was going to bury it as a new target stand or something.... 'til I saw the Bowling Balls. I then immediately knew it must be what some call a "punt" mortar! I'd seen similar handmade ones on the 'net and in magazines... naturally, we all completely forgot about our own rifles for the moment.

How far'zat thing go, anyway?

The Gun Range is a nice place- raised, covered shooting line, plenty of tables, well-kept grounds. The first line of targets is at 100 yards, with small berms and pipe target stands at 200, 300 and 400 yards as well, plus a trail/road to drive up to 'em if you need to. And at 500 yards, right at the base of the stand of trees off in the distance, is a full-size steel cutout of a moose, painted day-glo orange. Above, the guy with the mortar is pouring in some three ounces of Fg (coarse) Pyrodex black powder...

This sucker is huge!

This thing is huge! Probably weighing some 150 pounds, half-inch-nominal wall pipe with a massive two-inch-thick breechblock welded on one end. The touchhole or fuse passage leads to a small "chamber" in the center that holds the powder in a single spot, rather than letting it cover the whole 8.5" bore.

Crude, but it works.

Crude, yes, but it works. The owner is reluctant to do any additional welding on the pipe, for fear of making a weak or brittle spot, so he just stacks up whatever's handy to hold it, oh, 'bout there or so. This thing's so cool I want to make the guy some adjustable legs like the old 4.2" Chemical Mortar had....

Fire in the hole!

Three ounces of Pyrodex, an old garage-sale-special bowling ball, an old chair and some sewer pipe... Fire in the hole!

I'll be over here where it's safe...

He's not running, but he ain't dawdling either! Let's see, the fuse burns at about one minute per foot, there's about six inches there... dum da dum... carry the three...

KABOOM!

HOLY FREAKING BATTLESHIP MISSOURI! By the time the shutter snapped, the ball was, in relation to this picture on your screen, about six monitors up and climbing. It was whistling. I lost track of it since I was trying to get the picture, but the guys say it cleared the treeline by probably another hundred yards.

Let's do that again!

Let's do that AGAIN! Rod out the fuse hole, make sure there aren't any errant embers, pull the mortar up out of the divot it created, weigh out another charge of powder, another bowling ball... This time I was watching downrange with the camera pointing at the cannon... Holy Creeping God, ladies and gentlemen! That ball was screaming out of there! I'd wager it landed over 600 yards downrange.

I should have brought out my Radar Chrony. I'd guess that ball wasn't moving over 700 fps, possibly as low as 400 fps, but jeez, think of the mass! That ball's what, eight to ten pounds?!? What's the Hatcher's Index of a projectile weighing fifty-thousand grains moving at 400 fps? "Body armor" against this thing is eight feet of dirt over a concrete bunker!

Excavations?

Think Grandpas' old thirty-thirty is a kicker? How about a hundred-plus-pound gun that pushes itself into the dirt six to eight inches each time it goes off? This is not a shoulder arm.

After all four balls were expended, we helped load it back in the guy's car. I noted that there were some divots from earlier shoots... he said he gathers up old balls whenever he can find 'em, then when he has a few, on a nice day he'll come out and blow 'wm downrange. Says it always draws a crowd. I said "so there's already a few balls out there in the swamp, eh?"
"Oh, more than a few, yeah."

He says he also has a short cannon that takes small tomato-sauce cans and another mortar that takes soda cans. The soda cans, it seems, don't hold together well- the force of firing blows the can off the concrete fill, which then blows up in the air.

Besides, he says, NOTHING beats seeing that bowling ball howl downrange as far as the eye can see.

I agree. :) The pictures don't do this justice; this is something every Tinker or gadget freak should see in person at least once in their life.


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To: Liberal Classic; mhking

Who sits the Pins?

They'll need some time to get out of the impact area!


281 posted on 07/09/2004 5:39:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (.New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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To: Orion78

Alright, Michael, I'll light the fuse and you grab my watch on the way out.


282 posted on 07/09/2004 5:45:57 PM PDT by bad company
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bowling lane ready on the left? Bowling lane ready on the right? Commence bowling!


283 posted on 07/09/2004 6:31:30 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi!)
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To: humblegunner; Eaker

Ya'll come up to the Northeast Texas compound sometime...We'll show you something...shhhhhh...


284 posted on 12/22/2004 7:13:57 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans)
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To: stevie_d_64; Eaker; glock rocks

This needs to be looked at some more. Thanx for the link, grok


285 posted on 05/24/2008 6:12:18 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30)
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To: don-o

That was awesome.

I thought potato guns were neat.

I, well nevermind, you know what I am thinking.


286 posted on 05/24/2008 6:18:20 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I think I do know; and you can't be pit in jail for thinking

yet

287 posted on 05/24/2008 6:21:40 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30)
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To: don-o; glock rocks; Squantos; humblegunner; thackney

I did the engineering on bowling ball diameters, pipe size and a few other variables but never got an answer as to the amount and type of propellant. Gunner and I would just use a lot. I cannot find said data so I would have to start over.

Any explosive experts wanting to join the project?


288 posted on 05/24/2008 8:29:16 PM PDT by Eaker (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to have TheMom kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Eaker

Ok freep mail and disclaimer enroute !


289 posted on 05/24/2008 9:45:40 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Darksheare; SAMWolf; alfa6; Iris7; Cannoneer No. 4; colorado tanker

Ooooo, a new hobby!


290 posted on 05/24/2008 9:52:04 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (www.pinupsforvets.com)
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To: Eaker
Try the Knob Creek Gun Range here in Kentucky. They hold a semi-annual machine gun shoot where there is almost always a couple of mortars, flame-throwers, and field guns.

A guy showed up a few years ago with an old French 75. I don't know where he got it, but it shot just fine.

The gun range was originally built as a test ground for the naval guns built at the Louisville Naval Ordinance Plant. They would load them onto railroad cars, run them down to the range, and pop off a couple of rounds into the sides of the hills (the only thing on the other side is the Fort Knox impact area). If you ever get there, take a look at outer walls of the office building and concession stand. They are about 15-20 inches thick and built of reinforced concrete to protect the test crews against a faulty breach explosion.

Here's a picture of some guys with what appears to be a black-powder cannon.

291 posted on 05/24/2008 10:06:18 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: hubel458; Varmint Al
Ping for technical expertise.
292 posted on 05/24/2008 11:28:44 PM PDT by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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