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The Wilson War Continues [CIA/FBI investigate White House]
Time Magazine ^ | September 27, 2003 | Timothy J. Burger

Posted on 09/27/2003 4:07:19 PM PDT by AntiGuv

The DOJ opens a preliminary probe into whether the White House illegally unmasked a CIA operative

The Justice Department has opened a preliminary inquiry into whether a Bush Administration official illegally revealed the identity of a CIA employee whose husband criticized the Administration's handling of intelligence on Iraq, TIME has learned. The probe will determine whether to order a full-fledged FBI investigation.

The CIA triggered the Justice inquiry with a memo saying that there may have been an unauthorized disclosure about the wife of Joe Wilson, a former U.S. ambassador. Columnist Robert Novak wrote in July that Wilson's wife was a CIA "operative" who suggested that he be sent to Niger to investigate intelligence that Saddam Hussein was trying to buy a large volume of Niger's yellowcake uranium to build a nuclear weapon.

Wilson found no evidence that Saddam was seeking yellowcake — the International Atomic Energy Agency later determined this was probably untrue — but the CIA and National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice failed to fully vet the intelligence and President Bush used it in his State of the Union Address this year. After Wilson wrote an op-ed over the summer criticizing the Administration's handling of the intelligence about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction progam, Novak wrote that "two administration officials" told him Wilson's wife had suggested sending him to Niger to investigate.

The CIA is required to notify Justice if it believes there may have been an unauthorized disclosure. The notification was first reported Friday by MSNBC. The White House has denied being a source of any story about Wilson's wife.

CIA and Justice spokespersons declined comment, but an Administration official told TIME that the Justice is conducting a preliminary inquiry to "determine whether or not there should be an investigation" by the FBI.

Wilson would not discuss his wife and said he knew nothing about any investigation. But, he said, "It was clear to me from the beginning that this was really done as a signal to others who might step forward,” to criticize the Administration's handling of intelligence on Iraq.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; fbi; josephwilson; plamegate; robertnovak; valerieplame; whitehouse; wilson
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To: dogbyte12
Karl Rove has been a cancer on the Bush presidency from Day One.

Bush even said in the Hume interview that he doesn't follow the news. He only knows what his advisors tell him. Rove is poison.
21 posted on 09/27/2003 4:44:21 PM PDT by ambrose (Make October 7th the Official "Hug-a-RINO Day")
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To: AntiGuv
I understand that Novak is not prosecutable under the law as it does not apply to journalists, just to people who leak to journalists. Besides, Wilson already knows who it is. He got names from other reporters who were offered the info.
22 posted on 09/27/2003 4:46:24 PM PDT by dd123
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To: Miss Marple
I agree
23 posted on 09/27/2003 4:46:44 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Who Would the Terrorist Vote For ??????)
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To: Miss Marple
Think about what this means to the CIA to do this. The White House is the one who requests their budget. For them to do this, when they could literally get hammered, have all their funds being transferred to homeland security, it means they are serious here.

I don't think there is a single rational soul alive who think the president was in any way involved with this, so he does not need protection here. Somebody on staff was a loose cannon. It is better to remove said person, then to stonewall the CIA, FBI, and now DOJ.

Situational ethics are Clintonian. We really need to expect better behaviour. The CIA tried to undercut the president, because they felt the WMD case was weak. That pissed off the white house. The White House (agents with in it), reacted illegally with the leak to Novak. Period. The White House should apologize, boot the guilty person, and move on. Those asking for a stonewall, should recall that the coverup is almost always worse than the crime. The person who did this getting booted now will be forgotten by November 2004. If this is stonewalled, and an investigation stretches all througout next summer, it will be a campaign issue.

24 posted on 09/27/2003 4:47:58 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
I don't, the CIA doesn't, and it looks like the justice department and the FBI agree.
An investigation about whether to investigate hardly constitutes "agreement". Besides, as the investigation becomes more and more embarrassing for our highly politicized CIA, it will simply vanish, vanish as easily as a corrupt CIA ops' so-called cover.
25 posted on 09/27/2003 4:48:03 PM PDT by Asclepius (karma vigilante)
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To: Asclepius
When President Hillary Clinton's minions do something like this in 2009, or President Dean, or whoever the rats finally get into office, I want all of you who say it is no big deal, to either zip it, or stay consistent.

I always use the Hillary factor on these stories. That is what pisses so many bots off. If Hillary did something like this, what would my reaction be. Would I defend it, deny it, ignore it, or what?

It should be investigated, prosecuted, punished.

26 posted on 09/27/2003 4:51:25 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
Well, you are assuming that the CIA is at war with the White House. I disagree.

On the other hand, if the CIA, knowing full well that the information came from Wilson or his wife, launches an investigation, they will be able to discredit Wilson and Plame, his wife. Perhaps they will also nab other operatives who are working to undermine the war on terror.

You need to think things through carefully when dealing with the CIA. I tend to think Tenet is PO'd at Wilson and is using a PR friendly method of launching an investigation.

27 posted on 09/27/2003 4:51:55 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: dogbyte12
One other thing. Wilson's wife wasn't out in the field as an operative. She was an analyst at Langley, and that information could have been ascertained by anyone who followed her to work. We are not talking about revealing the identity of a spy overseas.
28 posted on 09/27/2003 4:54:54 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: dd123
I understand that Novak is not prosecutable under the law as it does not apply to journalists, just to people who leak to journalists.

Obstruction of justice. He knows that the crime was committed and who committed it. The only thing standing between the perps' and arrest is Novak's willful contemptible obstruction of justice.

29 posted on 09/27/2003 4:56:22 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: dogbyte12
Novak despises the Bush family. He's been ripping Dubya since the fall of 1999 when it became clear he was the front-runner. So his claim that it came from a White House official is highly suspect. He would be extremely happy to hurt this administration in any way he can.
30 posted on 09/27/2003 4:57:48 PM PDT by LenS
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To: Miss Marple
If President Bill or President Hillary had a staffer doing this over the CIA challenging the Sudan aspirin factory, you wouldn't complain right?

That is the meat of what I am asking. Say like I said earlier, that the CIA sent a man to Sudan, and he reported that it wasn't a weapons plant. George Stephanopholus retaliated by leaking to David Broder, that the agent's wife was a CIA employee. It wasn't proven, but everybody was pretty sure he did it, and it is against the law to reveal an agent, be they an analyst, undercover agent, or what have you.

What would your reaction be? The same as now? No big deal, let's forget about it? It is either right or wrong to do this. Not right for the (R) wrong for the (D). I just want to be clear on this when the rats do this.

31 posted on 09/27/2003 4:58:04 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
When a CIA agent starts stooging for the Democrats, leaking secrets to the press in order to embarrass the president, and supporting her Democratic-operative husband in a bunch of lies, then the issues get more complicated.

George Tenet should have been fired long since, and some of the other clintonoid agents such as Mrs. Wilson. I grant you it would have been better to fire them than to have a political foodfight in the press--even though they started it.
32 posted on 09/27/2003 5:04:27 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Asclepius
Novak wrote that "two administration officials" told him Wilson's wife had suggested sending him to Niger to investigate ...

Two administration officials could be CIA administration officials. Why assume White house?

34 posted on 09/27/2003 5:04:45 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: dogbyte12
I always use the Hillary factor on these stories. ... It should be investigated, prosecuted, punished.

And therein lies the rub. If it was the Clintons, it would never be investigated, prosecuted, or punished. My question: why would the CIA send an former "acting" ambassbor to do CIA field work anyway? I think the Wilsons are scum.

35 posted on 09/27/2003 5:09:30 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: LPM1888
When Wilson's wife connived with her boss to have her husband sent to Niger on an intelligence mission with political overtones, she, and him, committed a crime against the United States.

That is because she, and he, did it for personal gain, albeit mostly political, but gain in favor of the Democratic party.

They will probably take a trip on a gurney in Terre Haute before this is all over.

36 posted on 09/27/2003 5:27:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Yeti
Novak knows he is innocent of any crime. Besides, as far as we know, the "two officials" he's referring to may well be Mr. and Mrs. Wilson.

Why are you defending these two Clintonistas anyway?

37 posted on 09/27/2003 5:30:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dogbyte12
If I thought for a minute that someone in the White House revealed the name of a covert operative for the CIA, I would be the first to raise holy heck and demand an investigation.

However, I don't believe that Karl Rove, or anyone else involved with the White House, did any such thing.

I believe Novak got the information from Wilson himself, who was trying to ratchet up his credibility.

I am quite content for the DOJ to investigate. I remain confident that the truth will show who was the culprit, and I don't believe it was the White House.

38 posted on 09/27/2003 5:46:41 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: dd123
Someone noted obstruction of justice; there's also contempt of court (the more likely in this instance).
39 posted on 09/27/2003 5:49:23 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: Miss Marple; Asclepius
I think many people (as I mentioned in another thread) fail to recognize the critical importance this holds for the intelligence community. If the confidentiality and confidence of CIA case officers may be compromised due to political maneuvers, it casts a pall across the entire intel apparatus. Careers could be destroyed, agents could lose their lives, and painstaking operations could get crippled. The CIA is serious about this - and the politics of the matter has nothing to do with it. The intel community cannot permit this to go unresolved - you may count on that. Now, whether it ultimately gets handled in a private arrangement or a public spectacle is another matter altogether.

These leaks now are a shot across the bow. If the Agency is still not satisfied by the progress afterward, it's only the beginning. Bet on it.
40 posted on 09/27/2003 5:54:35 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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