And I guess you don't care about his gutless stance. As for Tom and PBA legislation - that would be an utter waster of time with this legislature, as big a waste of time as Arnold's plan (as an alternative to the referendum he won't support) for putting the illegal license law back to the Legislature. on either issue, the only way to get change is through the initiative. Tom supports the initiative to get rid of the license law; ARnodl doesn't. That's the bottom line, and it's very interesting that this doesn't bother you. As for PBA and parental consent, you'd also need an initiative and you and I both know that Tom would support it --- but given ARnold's chicken-out on the drivers license initiative, I doubt he'd show any more courage on a PBA initiative !!!