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To: Lorianne
I have talked about that issue before...

Really its not low sex drive most of the time. Its really not.

The choice of words makes it sound like some kind of medical condition.

More than anything its a mental issue.

Guys with that problem 9 times out of 10 are sick of the 'consequences' or are scared of them. One of the two. If the female is literally never pleased with anything then to hell with her. Its not worth dealing with.

If I am going to get in trouble with the community, including but not limited to her friends, thats not worth it either. If she is going to try and degrade me into doing what she wants... off with her.

Based on my experience single females are very hateful. If a guy shows interest in her she is first and foremost out with her friends talking about it and discussing things. The hatefulness coupled with the big mouth leads to BIG problems.

If she wants her friends she can have them. If she wants me she can have me.

She cannot have both. Her friends better have some limits attached to them otherwise I am over and out.

I find that another issue is the community pandering to the wants of the women.

As someone else said, guys are punished for being guys. Either by peer pressure, or mentally.

Quite simply, there is very little a guy can do right other than spend money on the girl. That is how guys are treated.

If money is most important why share it with someone else? Thats my motto. Let them buy their own stuff.

If they want a relationship we can do that too. But not both. The money comes after, meaning a LONG time after, the relationship has been established.

The solution is for over a long period of time to show basic respect towards men, and to be honest and trustworthy. Most men grow up without any of the three.

Guys are raised (sometimes) with the notion that to want sex is disrespectful towards women. The women are often raised with the same attitude.

Thats the foundation for all of this crap.

324 posted on 09/26/2003 6:04:26 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Meaning no disrespect here, but nothing you've said has anything to do with low sex drive in married males.

You're saying that as a single guy you can't find a quiet girl who will let you get laid cheaply enough. Or at least that's how I and my husband are reading what you said. Are we misinterpreting you?

We women do talk with each other--that's part of who we are. It's part of how we process information about our relationships. (I am not sure most guys actually process information about their relationships--they just stumble through and land in good ones or bad ones by chance.)

So if you're expecting ladies not to talk about you, you are expecting something that never was and never will be. Especially if you refuse to pay for dinner!
328 posted on 09/26/2003 6:09:01 PM PDT by ChemistCat (KTA&LGSTO.)
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To: maui_hawaii
Women and men have both been brainwashed about sex. Even so, our sexuality is part of our indivicuality, so I don't think you can make the kind of blanket generalizations you're making about either men or women. Most people mature mentally and sexually once they realize that they don't have to live by the brainwashed attitudes they got handed down from culture about sex. People with sex drives at all usually come to value their sexuality as an intergral part of themselves. Mature people do not let the media and outdated attitudes get in the way of having a happy sex life, provided they find a like minded partner.
337 posted on 09/26/2003 6:23:46 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: maui_hawaii
I think with your attitude it is no wonder that you are still single and that is probably a good thing. You will never find anyone "good enough" until you do a little soul-searching and accept that some of your relationship issues may lie with you and not with every woman you meet. What we see in others is most often a reflection of ourselves and if the image is a negative one it is because there is something in our own character that we don't want to look at.
342 posted on 09/26/2003 6:37:06 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: maui_hawaii
Did you just say that if a girl wants to date you, she can't have friends? Isn't isolation from friends and family a major indicator of abuse?
350 posted on 09/26/2003 6:57:02 PM PDT by Melas
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