Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Sex-Starved Marriages - Women Struggle to Cope With Spouses' Low Sex Drives
ABC News ^ | 09/26/03 | John Stossel

Posted on 09/26/2003 1:51:14 PM PDT by bedolido

Sept. 26— On your wedding day you assume you'll have a long future together filled with love, intimacy, maybe kids, and of course, sex. Cheryl Wolfe assumed sex would be part of her marriage.

Watch John Stossel's full report on 20/20 this Friday at 10 p.m.

She was mistaken. "Marriage was never consummated … The day we got married there was no sexual relationship at all, no honeymoon night and from that point forward — nothing," Wolfe said.

She isn't alone. Marriage therapists estimate as many as 20 percent of couples are mired in low-sex or no-sex marriages, and surprisingly often it's the men, heterosexual men, who don't want sex. Wolfe ultimately left her husband because he lost sexual interest in her.

Men's Low Sex Drive Rarely Discussed

Lori and Jim Barrett and Suzan and Chris Cummings — two couples who say their marriages are in trouble because they rarely have sex — bravely agreed to talk with 20/20 about it, and then to work with marriage therapist Michele Weiner-Davis to see if they could make things better.

In both cases it's the women who are frustrated that their sexual needs aren't being met by their husbands.

Barrett said, "I feel like we're living like brother and sister, because we don't have sex. I'm like what kind of relationship is this? This is awful."

Jim Barrett's someone people might call a manly guy. He's a motorcycle enthusiast, and a volunteer firefighter. He says sex has simply never been a high priority for him. He and Lori have two children, and they do have sex maybe (10 times a year,) which is too seldom for Lori, but plenty for Jim. He says sex has just never been that important to him.

But it is important to Lori and to Suzan Cummings.

Susan says sex is the "foundation" of a marriage. "It's not sharing the bank account, and the car, and the toilet," she said.

Suzan and Chris Cummings have been married for six years. She has a daughter by a previous marriage and together, she and Chris have a son, Connor. Susan says sex was infrequent before Connor was born and afterward, Chris seemed less and less interested. Now it's been 15 months since they've had sex.

Chris says he doesn't see why sex has to be such a big deal. In fact, he's happy in their marriage without the sex. "From my perspective it's wonderful. I would say that if sex wasn't important for Susan, if she never wanted to have sex again, I think, I would probably be very happy," he said.

The Barretts' and Cummings' problems aren't surprising to Davis, who's been counseling couples for two decades and is author of Sex-Starved Marriage.

"I'm convinced that low desire in men is America's best kept secret," Davis said.

According to Davis, women in low-sex marriages tend to think their situation is unique. "They start to wonder whether they're the only women in the world who are married to guys who aren't following them around the house with a permanent erection," she said.

Lori Barrett said her husband's lack of desire has been tough on her self image. "First it was for me almost like, 'What's wrong with you,' … and then I was like, 'What's wrong with me — he doesn't want me!'"

Davis said it's common for the partner who's not getting their sexual needs met to feel unwanted or unloved. "When this major disconnect happens," Davis said, "intimacy on all levels tends to drop out, and it puts the marriage in a danger zone."

Bedroom Troubles Boil Over

When one partner is unhappy in the bedroom, it often creates tension that spills into other aspects of the marriage.

The Barretts agreed to let 20/20 put a camera in their home, and sure enough, there was a lot of bickering going on.

Jim said he feels like he's walking around the house on eggshells. Lori and Jim both say it's usually Lori who's on Jim's case.

Lori thinks there'd be less tension in their marriage if there were more sexual intimacy in it. She begged Jim to go to a doctor to have his testosterone levels checked and see if his problem is physical. He won't do it.

"Yeah, let's send Jim to the doctor. He's broke," he said. But he doesn't think there's anything wrong with him physically. He thinks it's an issue of trust, and that he can't just be himself.

They're caught in a trap. Lack of sex makes Lori frustrated, and Jim says he's not in the mood for sex because Lori is so critical. If she weren't so critical, Jim says, he might be turned on to his wife.

"Things'd be a lot more relaxed and we'd probably be a lot closer. Yeah. We'd probably have a lot better physical relationship," he said.

Don't Ignore the Problem

There are many factors that can cause low desire in men, say the experts. It might be anger toward a spouse or a physical issue, but all say whatever the cause, the worst thing to do is nothing — especially when sex is a priority for your partner — as it is for Suzan Cummings.

Chris says he loves Suzan but he worries about not being able to please her sexually. He says he always suffered some level of performance anxiety, and it's only gotten worse over time.

He tried Viagra, but it didn't work. Chris hasn't initiated sex with Suzan in about three years and he says it's gotten to the point he's afraid to initiate any physical contact with Suzan.

"At this point," he said, "the kissing and the hugging and the holding, has kind of signified, has come to signify the, desire to go farther."

Chris's fear of having sex with Suzan is pretty ironic since she works as an exotic dancer. She performs at a strip club, where men pay big bucks to watch women strut around in sexual ways. Suzan is one of the star attractions — lots of men come to the club just to see her. At one time Chris was one of them. That's how they met.

Chris says he still finds Suzan sexually attractive but his anxiety dampens his desire for her.

But he hasn't entirely lost his sex drive. He says "it gets satisfied through masturbation."

Chris says he knows his predicament sounds odd. "I realize that obviously I look like a schmuck on TV. It's extremely humiliating to get up and speak publicly about the fact that I'm not good in bed or that I can't satisfy my wife. I'm not proud of it," he said.

Suzan says she used to try reaching out to Chris sexually, but she's given that up. She said it was painful for her to feel rejected by her husband. "I value myself, um my sexuality as a woman. And to have it turned down over and over repeatedly says you have no value as a sexual being. … I need to feel loved. And I feel loved through sexual contact."

Suzan said the practical aspects of their relationship works fine, but overall she feels the relationship is cold and lonely.

Watching them at home with 20/20 cameras, it sure looked that way. There was no physical affection, and barely any interaction between them. It was almost as if they were leading parallel lives. After dinner Chris went downstairs to play video games, while Suzan sat by herself at the computer, surfing the Web.

Suzan said this is what happens night after night. "That's the exciting life of a stripper on her days off," she said.

More importantly, Suzan said she thinks there's a good chance they'll break up if things don't change.

Working It Out

Davis sat down with the Barretts, and Lori quickly revealed how deep her sense of rejections runs.

"Growing up I had a family an extended family that was constantly teasing me about how I looked and it really hurt me a lot, and so when I had my husband … this person I felt loved me, married me, and then did the same thing, rejected me. It's been very, very hard."

For Jim, hearing Lori say she felt unloved, rather than just barking at him, provides a different perspective, says Davis. "That's the catalyst for change, to truly understand what your partner is feeling, to be in their hearts, rather than to sit as so many couples do and point fingers," Davis said.

Davis says it's important for high-desire partners like Lori to understand that some people just have low sex drives and her husband is probably one of them What Jim has to do, she says, is to act sexually toward Lori even at first if he's not in the mood for sex. She says low-desire partners should try to just do it. Use it or lose it.

According to Davis, "The more a person is sexually active, the more it actually stimulates testosterone production, which is one of the primary hormones responsible for sex drive."

In Suzan and Chris's case, that's not so easy, because Chris now is afraid he can't perform. He knows it hurts Suzan. During their session with Davis, Suzan told Chris, "I don't understand how you can you love me, and not be there for me physically. How you could let me feel that way about myself?"

Davis' advice to them is to start touching each other affectionately with the understanding, at first, that they will not have sex. That will take pressure off Chris. Suzan said she'd be happy just to have simple affection, and Chris said he was surprised and relieved to hear that would be enough.

A month later, things were definitely better for Lori and Jim. He had initiated more sexual contact, and she said she made an effort not to nag.

Suzan and Chris were happier too. "First of all we're having sex," Chris said, "Not as much as we'd like, but that's the biggest fundamental change."

They needed another counseling session with Davis before Chris could really relax and feel it was OK to touch Suzan without it leading to intercourse and the fear of failure that gave him.

The couple says their renewed intimacy has brought other benefits.

Suzan said, "You feel good about yourself. When you feel good about yourself you can show love to your partner. You know it might not last forever until you're 90 but it gives you a warm, loving basis to go on, you know you feel loved."

For more information on Michele Weiner-Davis, visit her Web site at www.DivorceBusting.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drives; imarriedagayguy; marriages; sex; sexstarved; spouses; women
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 241-260261-280281-300 ... 541-555 next last
To: Darksheare
I seem to be one post behind yours. I'm glad divorce has at least crossed your radar screen. And nobody likes the idea of it. It's not fun (from what I hear), but it's not as though you're having a party and enjoying life now.

Forgive me if I seem harsh. But the thought of someone sitting around taking such abuse makes me upset.
261 posted on 09/26/2003 5:15:13 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 244 | View Replies]

To: bedolido
Men get stressed with work (as opposed to "careers") and they have to have the character to resist the "tired of the same old thing" impulse.

Women get worn out from dealing with babies and children....and sometimes balancing a career (not a job).

I'm not sure hormones have as much to do with this issue as simply that reality bites.
262 posted on 09/26/2003 5:16:19 PM PDT by wardaddy (The Lizard King it was.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare; ChemistCat; wimpycat
I'm a man, and I have to agree with he ladies here. I admire the fact that you're trying to make the marriage work. And I respect those who choose to maintain open marriages, if that's what you desire.

But if a traitional marriage is what you desire, I'm afraid you haven't found the right person, and no amount of concession on your part is going to bring you any happiness.

Let me share with you a simple fact of life that someone much older and wiser once shared with me, those in life who get runover, allow it to happen.

263 posted on 09/26/2003 5:16:50 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Game on in ten seconds...http://www.fatcityonline.com/Video/fatcityvsdemented.WMV)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 242 | View Replies]

To: ValerieUSA
wrong....totally different species..lol
264 posted on 09/26/2003 5:17:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (The Lizard King it was.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 259 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare
Please, please leave before she gets pregnant. I guarantee you that if you think things are bad now....

If she's married to you, you're required to pay child support even if the baby isn't yours, in most states.

And I would side with the baby (and thus with her) if you let that happen.
265 posted on 09/26/2003 5:18:52 PM PDT by ChemistCat (KTA&LGSTO.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 260 | View Replies]

To: Centurion2000
...learn to do some more interesting stuff in bed maybe.

I don't know why, but I find this amusing. Where does one's wife go to 'learn' more interesting stuff? I mean, you can watch cooking shows, remodeling shows, and decorating shows. But I don't recall seeing the "How To" show on sex.

Maybe I just need to get the expanded cable.

266 posted on 09/26/2003 5:19:20 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: snopercod
I keep a kit handy.
267 posted on 09/26/2003 5:19:33 PM PDT by First_Salute
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: wimpycat
OKers.
Yes, it has crossed the radar screen.
Quite often.
At first, she used it as a threat to get me to do what she wanted.
Then it held no fear for me.
Now it seems I have no choice.
The words 'bitter pill' come to mind.
Heck, I could probably write a book about how to destroy a marraige.
Start it out with, "If you want to be miserable, cause pain and anguish and untold stress in your life, do these things!"
Maybe stuff it full of advice from both sides of the fence?
Cripes, what am I saying, I'm not the book writing type.
268 posted on 09/26/2003 5:19:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems. I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 261 | View Replies]

To: Interious
My wife and I have been together for 20 years, married the last 10 of those, and have a sex-less marriage, essentially. I think the last time was 2 years ago.


You know, if you both went on the Atkins diet together you might end up ******* like bunnies. On the other hand, not having sex is a way not to be emotionally intimate.
269 posted on 09/26/2003 5:20:08 PM PDT by mlmr (I need a new, and improved Tag Line.... Freepmail me your suggestions.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: bedolido
Its a nasty - dirty job - but I volunteer to help these poor women however I can. Appointments ain't necessary.
270 posted on 09/26/2003 5:20:49 PM PDT by sandydipper (Never quit - never surrender!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ChemistCat
Best part is, she can't get pregnant.
Ever hear of endometriosis?
She's sterile due to it, basically.
But divorce has crossed my mind.
But I feel it's the ultimate last resort.
Kinda like using a nuke to get rid of a flea.
271 posted on 09/26/2003 5:21:22 PM PDT by Darksheare (I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems. I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 265 | View Replies]

To: Night Hides Not
Have a full workup and hormone screen. There is more evidence that there is a male menopause.
272 posted on 09/26/2003 5:21:42 PM PDT by mlmr (I need a new, and improved Tag Line.... Freepmail me your suggestions.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare
Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours.

--Richard Bach

::"What is truth? asked the guy with the leaves on his head, and washed his hands.::
273 posted on 09/26/2003 5:23:03 PM PDT by ChemistCat (KTA&LGSTO.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 271 | View Replies]

To: snopercod
I built a Heathkit short-wave radio on my wedding night.


That's a funny place to do it. Tell me...are you still married?
274 posted on 09/26/2003 5:23:59 PM PDT by mlmr (I need a new, and improved Tag Line.... Freepmail me your suggestions.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: ValerieUSA
It must have been very difficult for you. I honestly cannot imagine it and I'm sure if I had been in that kind of situation I would have taken it very personally whether it was "reasonable" to do so or not. Despite the problems in my marriage, there was never a time when my husband wasn't all over me and I wouldn't consider marrying again if I didn't believe that marriage came with the promise of a healthy sex life. I realize that isn't all there is, but physical intimacy certainly is important and goes a long way toward forging and keeping the bonds in the relationship strong. Besides, an awful lot of a woman's self-confidence is tied up in her sense of desirability. I think that even if the problem is a biological one, it would be next to impossible not to translate it, psychologically and emotionally, as something WE should be able to "fix".
275 posted on 09/26/2003 5:25:35 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 176 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare
Part of the man's vow is to "cherish" his wife... if you can no longer do that (which you do not) then there is no point in keeping the rest of the vow. It is broken. If she cheated on you, the covenant ceased to exist as a fact way back then. If you had a business partner who embezzled thousands of dollars from your company, would you feel bound to him by contract, or free to dissolve the partnership?
276 posted on 09/26/2003 5:25:57 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 244 | View Replies]

To: bedolido
Chris's fear of having sex with Suzan is pretty ironic since she works as an exotic dancer. She performs at a strip club, where men pay big bucks to watch women strut around in sexual ways. Suzan is one of the star attractions — lots of men come to the club just to see her. At one time Chris was one of them. That's how they met.

Uh, not to stop everyone from commenting on How Women Are Giving The Shaft To Men (a subject that I've frequently commented on myself), but here's another possibility. Chris is having an adulterous affair, and he isn't having sex with Suzan because (a) he's tapped out after having sex with his lover, and (b) he feels guilty about it when he's with Suzan.

When a man isn't having sex with his wife, there's a good chance he's getting it somewhere else. It's too late for Hillary Clinton to figure this one out, but if there are any wives reading this . . . you've been warned.

277 posted on 09/26/2003 5:26:12 PM PDT by JoeSchem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wimpycat; Darksheare
Your marriage is dead--gone, kaput, over. "Keeping your word" has no meaning anymore. Get out while you have an ounce of self-respect left.

That bears repeating... You sound miserable, rightly so.

278 posted on 09/26/2003 5:26:14 PM PDT by Queen Jadis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies]

To: Arthalion
But to toss my two pence in here: After the birth of my first child, my wife put on 75 pounds and went on a two year nag fest. When our sex life dropped to once every six months, she started whining that I was "ignoring her needs". I responded that I'm an old fashioned conservative kind of guy...I'm only interested in having sex with my loving, affectionate wife. After bawling for a few hours, she admitted that she'd been a b*t*h and promised to change. She dropped about 50 pounds, knocked off the nagging, and basically started acting like she cared again. Problem solved...our relationship (and sex life) is stronger today than at any other point in our 11 year marriage.

If there's one message every woman should teach her daughter, it's this: Nothing kills a man's affection faster than nagging. Our mothers nagged us, and when you nag us you remind us of dear old mom. While men love their mothers, we aren't interested in being romantic with them.

You were clear, she listened. that is great. You both got what you wanted.
279 posted on 09/26/2003 5:26:19 PM PDT by mlmr (I need a new, and improved Tag Line.... Freepmail me your suggestions.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Digger
HIS DIARY
Today the Packers lost, but at least I got laid.

You win....this is the best line of the thread!!
280 posted on 09/26/2003 5:28:05 PM PDT by mlmr (I need a new, and improved Tag Line.... Freepmail me your suggestions.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 241-260261-280281-300 ... 541-555 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson