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Sex-Starved Marriages - Women Struggle to Cope With Spouses' Low Sex Drives
ABC News ^ | 09/26/03 | John Stossel

Posted on 09/26/2003 1:51:14 PM PDT by bedolido

Sept. 26— On your wedding day you assume you'll have a long future together filled with love, intimacy, maybe kids, and of course, sex. Cheryl Wolfe assumed sex would be part of her marriage.

Watch John Stossel's full report on 20/20 this Friday at 10 p.m.

She was mistaken. "Marriage was never consummated … The day we got married there was no sexual relationship at all, no honeymoon night and from that point forward — nothing," Wolfe said.

She isn't alone. Marriage therapists estimate as many as 20 percent of couples are mired in low-sex or no-sex marriages, and surprisingly often it's the men, heterosexual men, who don't want sex. Wolfe ultimately left her husband because he lost sexual interest in her.

Men's Low Sex Drive Rarely Discussed

Lori and Jim Barrett and Suzan and Chris Cummings — two couples who say their marriages are in trouble because they rarely have sex — bravely agreed to talk with 20/20 about it, and then to work with marriage therapist Michele Weiner-Davis to see if they could make things better.

In both cases it's the women who are frustrated that their sexual needs aren't being met by their husbands.

Barrett said, "I feel like we're living like brother and sister, because we don't have sex. I'm like what kind of relationship is this? This is awful."

Jim Barrett's someone people might call a manly guy. He's a motorcycle enthusiast, and a volunteer firefighter. He says sex has simply never been a high priority for him. He and Lori have two children, and they do have sex maybe (10 times a year,) which is too seldom for Lori, but plenty for Jim. He says sex has just never been that important to him.

But it is important to Lori and to Suzan Cummings.

Susan says sex is the "foundation" of a marriage. "It's not sharing the bank account, and the car, and the toilet," she said.

Suzan and Chris Cummings have been married for six years. She has a daughter by a previous marriage and together, she and Chris have a son, Connor. Susan says sex was infrequent before Connor was born and afterward, Chris seemed less and less interested. Now it's been 15 months since they've had sex.

Chris says he doesn't see why sex has to be such a big deal. In fact, he's happy in their marriage without the sex. "From my perspective it's wonderful. I would say that if sex wasn't important for Susan, if she never wanted to have sex again, I think, I would probably be very happy," he said.

The Barretts' and Cummings' problems aren't surprising to Davis, who's been counseling couples for two decades and is author of Sex-Starved Marriage.

"I'm convinced that low desire in men is America's best kept secret," Davis said.

According to Davis, women in low-sex marriages tend to think their situation is unique. "They start to wonder whether they're the only women in the world who are married to guys who aren't following them around the house with a permanent erection," she said.

Lori Barrett said her husband's lack of desire has been tough on her self image. "First it was for me almost like, 'What's wrong with you,' … and then I was like, 'What's wrong with me — he doesn't want me!'"

Davis said it's common for the partner who's not getting their sexual needs met to feel unwanted or unloved. "When this major disconnect happens," Davis said, "intimacy on all levels tends to drop out, and it puts the marriage in a danger zone."

Bedroom Troubles Boil Over

When one partner is unhappy in the bedroom, it often creates tension that spills into other aspects of the marriage.

The Barretts agreed to let 20/20 put a camera in their home, and sure enough, there was a lot of bickering going on.

Jim said he feels like he's walking around the house on eggshells. Lori and Jim both say it's usually Lori who's on Jim's case.

Lori thinks there'd be less tension in their marriage if there were more sexual intimacy in it. She begged Jim to go to a doctor to have his testosterone levels checked and see if his problem is physical. He won't do it.

"Yeah, let's send Jim to the doctor. He's broke," he said. But he doesn't think there's anything wrong with him physically. He thinks it's an issue of trust, and that he can't just be himself.

They're caught in a trap. Lack of sex makes Lori frustrated, and Jim says he's not in the mood for sex because Lori is so critical. If she weren't so critical, Jim says, he might be turned on to his wife.

"Things'd be a lot more relaxed and we'd probably be a lot closer. Yeah. We'd probably have a lot better physical relationship," he said.

Don't Ignore the Problem

There are many factors that can cause low desire in men, say the experts. It might be anger toward a spouse or a physical issue, but all say whatever the cause, the worst thing to do is nothing — especially when sex is a priority for your partner — as it is for Suzan Cummings.

Chris says he loves Suzan but he worries about not being able to please her sexually. He says he always suffered some level of performance anxiety, and it's only gotten worse over time.

He tried Viagra, but it didn't work. Chris hasn't initiated sex with Suzan in about three years and he says it's gotten to the point he's afraid to initiate any physical contact with Suzan.

"At this point," he said, "the kissing and the hugging and the holding, has kind of signified, has come to signify the, desire to go farther."

Chris's fear of having sex with Suzan is pretty ironic since she works as an exotic dancer. She performs at a strip club, where men pay big bucks to watch women strut around in sexual ways. Suzan is one of the star attractions — lots of men come to the club just to see her. At one time Chris was one of them. That's how they met.

Chris says he still finds Suzan sexually attractive but his anxiety dampens his desire for her.

But he hasn't entirely lost his sex drive. He says "it gets satisfied through masturbation."

Chris says he knows his predicament sounds odd. "I realize that obviously I look like a schmuck on TV. It's extremely humiliating to get up and speak publicly about the fact that I'm not good in bed or that I can't satisfy my wife. I'm not proud of it," he said.

Suzan says she used to try reaching out to Chris sexually, but she's given that up. She said it was painful for her to feel rejected by her husband. "I value myself, um my sexuality as a woman. And to have it turned down over and over repeatedly says you have no value as a sexual being. … I need to feel loved. And I feel loved through sexual contact."

Suzan said the practical aspects of their relationship works fine, but overall she feels the relationship is cold and lonely.

Watching them at home with 20/20 cameras, it sure looked that way. There was no physical affection, and barely any interaction between them. It was almost as if they were leading parallel lives. After dinner Chris went downstairs to play video games, while Suzan sat by herself at the computer, surfing the Web.

Suzan said this is what happens night after night. "That's the exciting life of a stripper on her days off," she said.

More importantly, Suzan said she thinks there's a good chance they'll break up if things don't change.

Working It Out

Davis sat down with the Barretts, and Lori quickly revealed how deep her sense of rejections runs.

"Growing up I had a family an extended family that was constantly teasing me about how I looked and it really hurt me a lot, and so when I had my husband … this person I felt loved me, married me, and then did the same thing, rejected me. It's been very, very hard."

For Jim, hearing Lori say she felt unloved, rather than just barking at him, provides a different perspective, says Davis. "That's the catalyst for change, to truly understand what your partner is feeling, to be in their hearts, rather than to sit as so many couples do and point fingers," Davis said.

Davis says it's important for high-desire partners like Lori to understand that some people just have low sex drives and her husband is probably one of them What Jim has to do, she says, is to act sexually toward Lori even at first if he's not in the mood for sex. She says low-desire partners should try to just do it. Use it or lose it.

According to Davis, "The more a person is sexually active, the more it actually stimulates testosterone production, which is one of the primary hormones responsible for sex drive."

In Suzan and Chris's case, that's not so easy, because Chris now is afraid he can't perform. He knows it hurts Suzan. During their session with Davis, Suzan told Chris, "I don't understand how you can you love me, and not be there for me physically. How you could let me feel that way about myself?"

Davis' advice to them is to start touching each other affectionately with the understanding, at first, that they will not have sex. That will take pressure off Chris. Suzan said she'd be happy just to have simple affection, and Chris said he was surprised and relieved to hear that would be enough.

A month later, things were definitely better for Lori and Jim. He had initiated more sexual contact, and she said she made an effort not to nag.

Suzan and Chris were happier too. "First of all we're having sex," Chris said, "Not as much as we'd like, but that's the biggest fundamental change."

They needed another counseling session with Davis before Chris could really relax and feel it was OK to touch Suzan without it leading to intercourse and the fear of failure that gave him.

The couple says their renewed intimacy has brought other benefits.

Suzan said, "You feel good about yourself. When you feel good about yourself you can show love to your partner. You know it might not last forever until you're 90 but it gives you a warm, loving basis to go on, you know you feel loved."

For more information on Michele Weiner-Davis, visit her Web site at www.DivorceBusting.com.


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To: tiamat
That may be true but that is not the reason some men are not interested in sex with their wives. I am FAR from being a feminist and far from being unfeminine ..didn't matter. Just plain not interested.
101 posted on 09/26/2003 2:51:03 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: MotleyGirl70
Not long after I graduated from high school, a friend of mine married a girl in our senior class. She was 5'2" & 95 lbs with waist-length black hair. I moved out of state. Two years later, I ran in to them on a visit home. She weighed 160 and had short hair. Lost touch with them, but I always wondered what happened to their marriage.

Some years later, a deacon in our church left his wife and shacked up with an average looking younger woman. Naturally, we were all shocked. I was even more shocked when our 70 year old pastor said he wasn't surprised. "What he did was wrong, no doubt about it. But if you had spent an hour in their home, listening to her talk, you wouldn't be surprised he left her - only that he stayed as long as he did."

Some men have little or no sex drive. If you get married and don't have sex for months, there's a problem.

But when men lose their sex drives a few years after marriage, it is usually nagging, weight, or someone else - or all three.
102 posted on 09/26/2003 2:52:02 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: L,TOWM
bump
103 posted on 09/26/2003 2:53:39 PM PDT by Myrnick ("Hey, Lama! How about a little somethin' ya know - for the effort?")
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To: Arthalion
Amen bro.....nothings harder than trying to get it on, closing your eyes and picturing her bitchin about something. Over the last 20 yrs. we've seen a whole generation of women grow up with more freedom, more job opportunities, more education, etc. than any generation in history and instead of being highly grateful for their lot in life still way too many women are unhappy, unfulfilled and still bitchin'. Also, out of this is a whole industry that's been created to remind them daily why they should be so miserable.
104 posted on 09/26/2003 2:53:56 PM PDT by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: ravingnutter
You obviously didn't read the post. The key word was "tend" not all. Your situation is very unfortunate but it is also the exception. Talk to any marriage counselor and they will tell you that "most" of the time when a man loses interest in the spouse he has become "interested" in something else.

I do hope things improve for you and your husband and his health stays good. But you guys might want to consider talking to a pastor or church counselor if you haven't already. From your post I sense some frustration.

105 posted on 09/26/2003 2:55:58 PM PDT by okkev68
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To: cpprfld
I think that one of the problems with low male sex drive might be from having an unattractive spouse.

Yes, except that unattractiveness is almost always mental, not physical. After all, you married her because she was, all other things taken into account, attractive enough for you, right? Too many spouses start taking their partner for granted and so develop unattractive personality changes after marriage. This will drive him/her out of the bedroom fast.

Another point: men with performance anxiety often don't realize that they have a "backup system". Use it, and women will thank you most highly for it.

106 posted on 09/26/2003 2:57:15 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: cpprfld
Ah, in other words, immaturity.
107 posted on 09/26/2003 2:57:31 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Rebelbase
In my experience some men do not have sex with their wives because the women are bitchy, condescending control freaks with a mean streak that would scare a badger.

Exactly. I have a friend who had a perfectly normal sex life before his marriage. After marriage, the wife turned into a critical bitch, attacking him for virtually everything. He told her it was a problem. He told her he'd put up with it as long as he could but someday, he would close himself off to her emotionally. Kids came. Bitchiness and criticism increased, his desire decreased. After a hysterectomy, she became very hypercritical about sex. He lost interest completely. But wasn't about to leave, because of the kids. So, you have a wife complaining about no intimacy or sex, the guy's emotionally shut down and all she does is bitch about the lack of sex. He even, he says, told her directly that he didn't feel like having sex with someone who was constantly criticizing him. Deaf ears. Eventually, the kids will grow up and he will leave -- too old to have a decent sex life. I feel sorry for the guy.

108 posted on 09/26/2003 2:59:25 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: flying Elvis
I knew right away she was an sexpert by her name,"Michele Weiner-Davis".
109 posted on 09/26/2003 3:00:19 PM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: ravingnutter
You will find a number of mature, like-minded individuals on threads such as these. Come back to check.
110 posted on 09/26/2003 3:01:38 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Arthalion
Exactly. Its an Oedipal thing. No man wants to make love to his mother. People tend to be sexually active until they have children and then it drops off after that. A couple can consumed with responsibilities and life's worries and two people need to make time for each other. That's important in our 24 hour a day on demand society to keep a relationship alive and healthy.
111 posted on 09/26/2003 3:02:03 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Digger
Stolen, printed, and handed out to co-workers. Still laughing.
112 posted on 09/26/2003 3:03:33 PM PDT by rwfok
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To: bedolido
There's something very disconcerting about FReepers discussing their sexual problems, while others reveal their social inadequacies and bitter resentments.
113 posted on 09/26/2003 3:04:02 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: CatoRenasci
He even, he says, told her directly that he didn't feel like having sex with someone who was constantly criticizing him. Deaf ears. Eventually, the kids will grow up and he will leave -- too old to have a decent sex life

Send him to Russia ... a lot of women there (in their 30s-40s) will be glad to have him.

114 posted on 09/26/2003 3:04:40 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam : totalitarian political ideology / meme cloaked under the cover of religion)
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To: bedolido
I'd say to get some photos of the wife before assuming the husband has a problem getting it up.
115 posted on 09/26/2003 3:05:17 PM PDT by dfrussell
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To: ravingnutter
I'm honestly very sorry to hear about the problems you and your husband are having. I pray that better times lay ahead.

While some of the responses here have been attempts at crude humor, most of the "insensitive" ones also bear alot of truth from the male perspective. A couple of generations of constant harping about the wrongs of traditional "maleness" have created an environment where men really cannot speak their minds about these issues without fear of being smacked down. This environment, however, isn't really going to change the things that men like. Like it or not, God wired men and women differently and that's not going to change.

116 posted on 09/26/2003 3:07:41 PM PDT by AngryJawa (Just JDAM!!!)
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To: ravingnutter
If you married her just for her looks, I feel sorry for HER.

Reality bites. Visual appeal is a huge component of male sexuality. Also, men and women alike are more attracted to someone who takes care of their body. Doesn't mean they have to be an aerobics instructor, but someone who isn't respecting their body is neither respecting their relationship.

117 posted on 09/26/2003 3:07:58 PM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe ("Allow myself to introduce...myself.")
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To: bedolido
Like everything else, sex is supposed to be the MAN'S domain. If the woman feels like it, he's supposed to provide for it. Unless she DOESN'T feel like it. Then he's supposed to shut it off like a light switch. Unless she's just FAKING like she doesn't want it but she really does, then he's supposed to be a freaking mind reader as well as a Lothario.

On the other hand, if HE doesn't want it, there's something "wrong" with him.

It ain't worth the hassle.

118 posted on 09/26/2003 3:09:30 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: tiamat
I feel badly for your sister-in-law's child. It isn't healthy for a child to take on her mother's resentments. This will color the child's image of her father.
119 posted on 09/26/2003 3:10:56 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Semaphore Heathcliffe
When someone disrespects their body they disprepect themself and in turn, weakens their sense of self which in turn weakens their ability to participate in the relationship fully.

Hell, my lady gets on the scale and sees that she's gained a few lbs and she's whiny and oversensitive all day long.

:-<<<
120 posted on 09/26/2003 3:11:12 PM PDT by misterrob
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